Welcome to the Rolling Stones' Mailing list FAQ list
Summary of questions:
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1. Who ARE the Stones - what is the band lineup/history?
2. Hey! Do you think they read email???
3. Not even Bill?
4. Where can I get an online discography?
5. Hey! Why isn't this discography complete?
6. Well, where *can* I get a complete one?
7. Can you at *least* tell me about the solo records????
8. Where can I get bootlegs?
9. Which bootlegs are best? Which will have my favorite song?
10. Where can I get online lyrics/chords/tabulature?
11. How can I get that Keith sound in the comfort of my own home?
12. Wouldn't it be neat if there were a Stones "museum"?
13. I'm a novice. Can you recommend the best...
a. albums
b. movies
c. books
d. home videos
e. fanzines
14. What is/who are
a. "Nanker Phelge"
b. "The Glimmer Twins"
c. "Rock and Roll Circus"
d. "Altamont"
e. "Cocksucker Blues"
15. Gossip
a. How many times have they been arrested?
b. How many times have they been married?
c. Will the band break up?
d. Are they going to tour?
e. Do you think this is the last time, really?
f. How old ARE they?
16. Myths & legends:
a. Did Keith really get his blood changed?
b. Do they worship satan?
c. Is Paul dead?
Sources used in this FAQ list:
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(full publication information on these books can be found in part three of
the FAQ list, The Bibliography From Hell)
The primary resources for fact-checking in this document are:
Dalton, David - "The Rolling Stones - The First Twenty Years"
Giuliano, Geoffrey - "The Rolling Stones Album"
Wyman, Bill - "Stone Alone"
Weiner, Sue & Lisa Howard - "The Rolling Stones A to Z"
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Answers:
@Q1. Who ARE the Stones - what is the band lineup/history?
The first Rolling Stones long-playing album was released in 1964, to
enough advance excitement to encourage the band's management to
release it with only a portrait of the band on the front. Once you
understand that, all the rest really just falls into place.
Originally comprised of Mick Jagger (vocals), Brian Jones (gtr),
Keith Richards (gtr), Ian Stewart (piano), Charlie Watts (drums), and
Bill Wyman (bass), Ian Stewart was 'demoted' by de facto manager
Andrew Loog Oldham by the time of their first album, because he did
not look the part of a Rolling Stone. Although Ian did not appear in
photographs or get listed in band personnel information, he played,
credited, on records and in concert with the Stones up until his death
in 1985.
The first 'real' personnel change took place with the dismissal of
Brian Jones in 1969, who died several weeks later. Before his
death, his slot was filled by a young guitarist named Mick Taylor,
who had been in John Mayall's Bluesbreakers, and who stayed with the
Stones until December 1974.
Ron Wood, already a star from his work with Rod Stewart and the Faces,
joined as a 'special guest' in 1975, and became a full member by the
end of the year. In 1993, bassist Bill Wyman, then 56, officially
quit after years of rumours and speculation. As of this writing, no
permanent replacement has been announced for Mr. Wyman.
@Q2. Hey! Do you think they read email???
There is no evidence that any popular musician is hooked into the
Internet, and the world of electronic communication, unless you count
Billy Idol. And maybe the Edge.
@Q3. Not even Bill?
No!
@Q4. Where can I get an online discography?
Part IV of this document has a minimal listing which includes all
Rolling Stones EPs and albums released in the US and UK, excluding
out-of-print compilations. Original release dates, producer, song
lists, and maybe a biased comment or two, are added.
A section of it lists tracks which cannot be found on albums as
of the time of this writing.
@Q5. Hey! Why isn't this discography complete?
To assemble a complete discography of the Rolling Stones is indeed a
daunting task. The band has, in its' long recorded history, multiple
versions of the same songs, multiple versions of an album depending on
country of origin, multiple record labels releasing their post-1970
recordings, mono and stereo versions of pre-1970 albums, mono and
stereo and "electronically processed" stereo versions of individual
songs, dozens and dozens of singles, dozens of European compilation
packages, and then, in the eighties, the re-release of three-quarters
of it all on compact disc. (!)
To give you an idea of the volume, take the experience of German Stones'
authority Dieter Hoffman, who has a book out on the topic called the
'White Book'. The work covers all these issues in excruciating detail,
and requires more than 560 pages to do so.
So, in a nutshell - *you* want a complete online discography? Be our
guest, and feel free to type one up.
@Q6. Well, where *can* I get a complete one?
Although it has a mistake or two (out of THOUSANDS of opportunities),
Dieter Hoffman's 'Das Weissbuch' (German for the 'The White Book',
ISBN: 3980248940) lists all official releases, vinyl and CD, single and
LP, promos and dance remixes, by the Stones in Germany, Japan, the UK
and the United States. It is more than 560 pages long and includes
photographs of covers and labels, and a detailed index of all known
recorded selections by the Stones, even those appearing on 'official
unauthorized' recordings (see question 8). It is available as an
import, and will set you back about $US 90.00. As of this writing, it
is available from the Connecticut mail-order firm "The Disc Junkie".
Their phone number is 1-(203)-483-8317.
A more reasonably priced ($US 16), if less thorough and accurate book,
is available by Martin Elliott:
'The Rolling Stones: Complete Recording Sessions'
ISBN: 0-7137-2118-9
Great for a beginner, this book answers many basic questions. It is
current up to October 1989.
Stones "fanzines" can also be a good ongoing source of information for
collectors and interested parties. Please see the "fanzine" section
under question #13.
@Q7. Can you at *least* tell me about the solo records????
Fair enough. For our purposes we are not, at this time, including any
appearances by band members on others' recordings, or band members'
efforts at producing or presenting other artists, but restricting
ourselves, in the interest of brevity, to recording projects prominently
featuring the member, his name, or some variation thereof (e.g., the Charlie
Watts Orchestra), and excluding singles and configurations that do not
present previously unavailable material.
Although considered the first 'solo' effort by a group member, 'Memo From
Turner', sung by Mick Jagger in the movie 'Performance', released in
1970, is credited to the 'Rolling Stones' on compilations, although the
soundtrack, which is still in print, says 'Sung by Mick Jagger'. No one,
apparently, was all fired up to collect similar credit for Mick's song in
the movie "Ned Kelly": "The Wild-eyed Colonial Boy". A traditional song
sung by Mick's character, the movie came out on videocassette in 1993,
if you want to rent it.
Next up, in 1972, was a collection of lukewarm 'jams' which took place
several years earlier in the studio while the Stones were 'waiting for
our guitar player to show up'. The effort was called "Jamming With
Edward", and it features the talents of Bill Wyman, Charlie Watts, Mick
Jagger, and non-Stones Nicky Hopkins and Ry Cooder. It was released on
the Stones' own label.
The rest of the recordings should be fairly straightforward:
Jagger, Mick Don't Look Back sgl (1978)
(billed as a co-lead vocal w/Tosh in some countries)
State of Shock sgl (1984)
(billed as a co-lead vocal w/Michael Jackson)
She's the Boss LP (1985)
Hard Woman sgl (1985)
(German re-recorded version of the LP track)
Dancing in the Street (duet w/ David Bowie)
sgl (1985)
Ruthless People/I'm Ringin' sgl (1987)
Primitive Cool LP (1987)
Let's Work/Catch as Catch Can sgl (1987)
Wandering Spirit LP (1993)
Don't Tear Me Up CD5, w/ CD5 (1993)
"Everybody knows About My Good Thing"
Richards, Keith Run Rudolph Run/The Harder They Come sgl (1978)
Talk is Cheap LP (1988)
Live at the Hollywood Palladium LP (1991)
Main Offender LP (1992)
Eileen CD5 w/4 extra non-LP tracks CD5 (1993)
Taylor, Mick Mick Taylor LP (1979)
Watts, Charlie Live at the Fullham Town Hall LP (1986)
(Charlie Watts Orchestra)
From One Charlie to Another
(CD plus book "Ode to a high-flying bird")
BOX (1991)
A Tribute to Charlie Parker
(Charlie Watts quintet) LP (1992)
Wood, Ron I've Got My Own Album to Do LP (1974)
(aka "Cancel Everything" on CD)
Now Look LP (1975)
Mahoney's Last Stand (w/Ronnie Lane) LP (1976)
Gimme Some Neck LP (1979)
1234 LP (1981)
"It's Not Easy" (soundtrack to
"Wild Life") song (1984)
Live At the Ritz (w/ Bo Diddley) LP (1989)
Slide On This LP (1992)
Somebody Else Might (remix) CD5 (1993)
Wyman, Bill Monkey Grip LP (1974)
Stone Alone LP (1975)
Bill Wyman LP (1981)
Green Ice (film soundtrack) LP (1981)
Digital Dreams (video soundtrack) LP (1983)
Willie and the Poor Boys LP (1985)
("superstar" group w/ Charlie Watts, others)
Stuff (Japan only) LP (1992)
@Q8. Where can I get bootlegs?
Stones fans are pretty lucky when it comes to bootlegs. There are
hundreds of bootlegs available, many of them are even high quality
recordings. You can find all sorts of things on bootleg: demos,
rehearsals, outtakes, concerts and interviews. Unfortunately,
bootlegs are sort of illegal.
A legal loophole discovered by 'Swingin' Pig' records in 1986 created
an explosion in the "unauthorized recording" market, although it still
finds challenges in court by the likes of U2. Many, but not all,
"unauthorized recordings" are not "bootlegs" but legitimate releases
throughout much of Europe. (You may find "unauthorized recordings" at
your own local store clearly marked *IMPORT*.)
Here are the 4 main ways to acquire bootlegs:
First, know your local record stores. Avoid the large chains - they
generally only carry legitimate items. The small, independently run
stores are good places to look, but used record stores are your best
bet. Get a phone book and visit all the stores listed. Bigger
cities usually have better stores. College towns are excellent, too.
Go to your nearest metropolis or campus and comb the stores.
Second, go to record shows and conventions. Even the ones that have
a "no bootleg" policy can be rewarding, as they often don't enforce
the rule very well. Check in area newspapers and with local record
stores for dates and locations. Goldmine magazine prints record
show listings, but it may not list all of the shows in your area.
Third, use mail order places. Record magazines, such as Discoveries,
(or "Record Collector", in the UK) abound with ads offering Stones
merchandise. Of course, there's always an extra risk involved when
dealing with mail-order places, but most that advertise in major
magazines are reputable. If you're unsure, start small and work up
to larger purchases. Start with buying one item from a vendor. If
they are prompt with that order, then send a larger one. You can
usually find a copy of Discoveries or Record Collector in record or
book stores, or get in contact with them directly.
Fourth, trade with friends. This is the cheapest way to build a
collection of bootlegs. Buy a few and trade tapes to get other
things.
Caveat emptor. Bootlegs are often over-priced and low quality. Most
places don't have a friendly return policy on bootlegs either.
@Q9: Which Stones bootlegs are best? Which will have my favorite song?
Part two of this document is occupied with nothing but answering
this question. It is a concise history of the band's performing
career, and it includes remarks on availability of outtakes,
unreleased studio recordings, and live performances.
@Q10: Where can I get online lyrics/chords/tabulature/GIFs?
If you have access to USENET news, look at the groups
rec.music.makers.guitar.tablature and the less official
alt.guitar.tab. People will often post chords or tablature to Stones
songs on those groups. If you have chords and/or tab for a song, feel
free to post it to those groups. Tab is probably not appropriate for
posting to undercover (although it's been done before). If you are
posting tablature, perhaps the best solution is to post it to the
newsgroups and just indicate on undercover that you have done so.
Offer to mail it to anyone who doesn't have news access.
There is an ftp site for archived tablature. The site is
ftp.nevada.edu (131.216.1.11). The archive moderator is James Bender,
jamesb@nevada.edu. Any tab or chords you post should be sent to him as
well so he can add it to the site. Rolling Stones chords and tablature
currently lives in pub/guitar/r/Rolling.Stones AND
pub/guitar/r/rolling.stones. James is always working on the archive as
his time allows, so he may be consolidating the two directories and
adding a bunch of new songs in the near future.
This site is also mirrored at ftp.uwp.edu (131.210.1.4), where the
lyrics to selected Stones releases can also be found, in the
pub/music/artist/r/rolling.stones/lyrics directory.
@Q11. How can I get that Keith sound in the comfort of my own home?
Two approaches, here:
If you want to play like Keith, well you *really* need a Fender
Telecaster ;-). As well, Keith plays in open G tuning, his own 5
string version. Take your low E string OFF the guitar and tune it:
(low to high) GDGBD. You can always tune the low E string to D as well
if you don't want to remove strings. Keith sums up his guitar playing
thusly: "5 strings, 3 fingers, and one asshole."
or:
barre at the 5th fret (that's a C in open G tuning) and slam a few
chords... hammer on an Am7 form in fron of the bar.. that's an F... slam
a few more... repeat progression at the 2nd fret... noodle around on the
open G.... that'll get you through about 70% of all the solo albums and a
great deal of Stones stuff as well. A few tidbits... Keith uses talcum
powder on the neck before he plays...it speeds things up a lot, but if
you are really picky about strings, you will have to be religous about
wiping them when you are finished. And of course, never be so dull as to
actually play chords ON the downbeat... wait about 20 nanoseconds from
all major timing cues...get that one string about 2 clicks out of tune...
it's all in the tension, you know. And remember, no effects boxes and
keep in mind that "it only tightens up"...
@Q12. Wouldn't it be neat if there were a Stones "museum"?
Bill Wyman operates a restaurant called "Sticky Fingers" in the
well-heeled Kensington section of London. The food is much the
same general type of menu as you might find at Hard Rock. Cost
seems OK. The whole place is of course a shrine to a certain
well known band! Bill has decorated it with framed (etc)
posters, magazine covers, guitars, gold discs, etc etc. - even
an especially good blown up cutting on the right of the door
as you go out, headed 'Korner Cancels', referring to the
first real Stones Gig, on 12th July 1962. No trouble finding
things to read and gaze at while you await your meal. Most of the
time Stones music plays. Location: 1 Phillmore Gardens, London.
@Q13. I'm a novice. Can you recommend the best...
First.... a note on the worth of opinions. They are, as the saying
goes, like anal cavities. Everyone has one and they all stink. They
are also free, so remember that you get what you pay for.
Detached, objective judgment of the worth of a particular period of
the Rolling Stones' career is a problem all its own. As Keith
Richards has said, people tend to be fond of what they were hearing
the first time they got laid.
a. albums
If you are thinking of starting out with live albums or greatest-hits
compilations for an exposure to the Rolling Stones, (or for someone
else's benefit!), consider:
Their early work (the first eight years), originally on DECCA records
(London Records in the USA), is covered by any of the greatest-hits
compilations that are now being released on CD by ABKCO.
"Hot Rocks 1964-1971", the double-CD set, is a near-definitive collection
of hit singles. Alternatively, you could pair up the single CDs "High
Tide and Green Grass (Big Hits)" and "Through the Past Darkly (Big
Hits Part 2)" for a collection of equal length with a slightly
different impact. Or, American listeners can get the 1989 ABKCO 3-CD
set called "The London Years", which is full to the rim with anything
the band put out as a single in these years. It includes everything found
on the pair of American "Big Hits" compilations, everything on "Hot Rocks"
with the exception of three songs, and it has several somewhat rare
selections otherwise unavailable reasonably to American consumers.
Three compilations cover their post-ABKCO work. "Made in the Shade"
was originally released in 1975, and "Rewind (1971-1984)" in 1984.
Unfortunately, the CD releases of these two albums have an overlap of
four songs. "Rewind" is the better value for your CD money. "Sucking
in the Seventies", from 1981, is of interest largely to collectors.
It has three tracks otherwise unavailable on CD, and single/promo
edits of 6 Stones numbers released after 1975.
The Rolling Stones have released five "live albums", and except for
'Get Yer Ya-Ya's Out!', (1970), everyone seems to hate something
about all of them.
Moving on to "regular" releases, many people are strongly persuaded that
the Rolling Stones' years with Mick Taylor, and just before, are an
artistic peak that no one before or since has been able to touch. To
acquire that era, you can obtain the albums released from 1968 to 1972.
(In order of release: 'Beggar's Banquet', 'Let It Bleed', 'Get Yer
Ya-Ya's Out' (live), 'Sticky Fingers', and 'Exile on Main Street').
While an investment in the ABKCO compilations provides a fairly complete
overview of the best of the Rolling Stones' first eight years, the band's
first three American releases ('Newest Hit Makers', '12 X 5', and 'Now!')
stand as a powerful documentary of what all the fuss was about.
'Aftermath' is also a favorite among many aficianados.
What one critic has referred to as their 'silver age' occurred in the
late 70's-early eighties, after many had given the boys up for dead. The
albums "Some Girls", "Emotional Rescue", and "Tattoo You" (released from
1978 to 1981) show a veteran outfit churning out top-notch material
which was a critical and commercial success. Common rock criticism to the
contrary, this rejuvenation was NOT just the result of the appearance of
punk rock and the Sex Pistols in the world. After all, the punk
phenomenon didn't seem to do much for Led Zeppelin or the Who.
b. movies
The Rolling Stones are the focus of several films that have not made it
to the home video market.
Their film history is somewhat chaotic. Part of the reason you
can't see them all at your leisure may have as much to do
with technical feasibility as court injunctions.
Any movies that were subsequently released to the home video market are
listed under part d. of this question, "home videos"
'Cocksucker Blues' -
A concert film cum tour documentary, widespread exhibition of
this film has been frustrated by much legal wrangling over the
years. See question #14.
'Ladies & Gentlemen, The Rolling Stones' -
A concert film by which all others surely must be judged. High
excitement prevails in this film of two concert performances from
their 1972 American tour.
'The Rolling Stones At the MAX' -
A concert film of the 1990 European tour (the 'Urban Jungle'
tour), this film was the first 'entertainment' film (i.e., no
penguins, no beavers) to be filmed with the IMAX process.
Exhibition of an IMAX film overwhelms your peripheral vision, and
displays several stories high, resulting in a realism and
immediacy unavailable with conventional filming techniques.
This requires specially-equipped exhibition theatres, the kind
usually found only in planetariums or learning institutions.
An excellent, highly realistic technology capturing a compelling and
exciting performance. Highly recommended.
c. books
The number of published books about the Rolling Stones can (and does)
fill up a separate document all its own: Part three of this FAQ list.
Still, it is probably of some use to have a 'shortlist', some starting
point, so here are the titles of five current books we recommend for
giving you a good start in learning about the history, influence, and
greatness of the Rolling Stones.
Please note that these five are not necessarily the best
books about the Stones, but they ARE the best of what's currently
available.
'Dance With the Devil'
Stanley Booth
- Delayed for years due to litigation, this book combines
equal parts tedious personal confession and juicy Stones-tour
gossip. Particularly compelling is the detailed description of
a group rehearsal. An insider's account of the Stones' entree into
the big time.
'Symphony For the Devil'
Philip Norman
- Stops in 1983, but the author delivers a respectful and
competent biography. Bookended by anecdotes about their
1981 tour, Norman's analysis of characters in the play
known as the Rolling Stones is deep and thoughtful. Revised
and reissued in 1992.
'Keith Richards - the Biography'
Victor Bockris
- Little more than a cut-and-paste job of other,
indiscriminately chosen biographies, this book still has the
advantage of recent vintage, and the fact that the author
can turn out seductive and flowing prose. Never a dull moment,
which is actually difficult to say about lesser Stones'-related
works.
'The Rolling Stones Album'
Geoffrey Giuliano
- Biographically, nothing is very deep - only a thumbnail
sketch of the band's history is attempted. Sometimes, though,
this is more refreshing than failed attempts at deep analysis.
Intended as pornography for the Stones-memorabilia fetishist,
this book has great color photographs of records, books,
promotional items, and posters. If a picture paints a thousand
words, this is a million-word chronicle.
'Stone Alone'
Bill Wyman (with Ray Coleman)
- The only book by any band member that was there in the early
years, and at the height of the madness, this can (surprisingly)
get awfully boring. If, as is said, the devil is in the details,
then opportunities abound here, as one of Wyman's techniques is to
provide the full text of letters for rather unseemly work-a-day
tasks. Yet, there is no discussion of the band's working
techniques, except as they pertain to, for example, how long they
would spend working on a new song of Wyman's versus one penned by
Jagger and Richards. Great opportunities missed, but others taken,
if you have the interest and patience. NB: only covers up to
July, 1969.
Now these five *are* the best: good luck finding them all!
'Stone Alone' - Wyman/Coleman
'Symphony for the Devil' - Phillip Norman
'An Illustrated Record'
Roy Carr
- A beautiful, thoroughly researched, large-format book which
presents the Rolling Stones' discography up to 1976. It includes
tour history, side-project information, interviews, unreleased
album covers, and beautiful reproductions of the original DECCA
LP covers. Essential.
'The Rolling Stones - The First Twenty Years'
David Dalton
- Dalton has edited several books on the topic, any and all of
them worthwhile. Another large format book, this collection of
essays, reviews, band history, interviews, photographs, and a
sessionography, remains overwhelming years after you acquire it.
Out of print, and highly recommended.
'S.T.P.'
Robert Greenfield
The abbreviation of "Stones Touring Party", and the name of a
drug, this out-of-print classic is about life on the road
with the World's you-know-what on their most infamous excursion
to the United States, in 1972.
d. home videos
The Stones have several releases on home video.
Note: ("import") means this is a title that is not generally available
in the States except in 'specialty' stores. Since the rest of the world
has a different video standard from the US, these tapes are often made
through a format-conversion process, and so may suffer in son et lumiere.
'25 X 5 (The Continuing Adventures of the Rolling Stones)' -
This two-hour retrospective of the band's entire career, released in
1990, has some exclusive footage and performances from the band's own
collection. It's narrated by interviews with the band, so bring your
own grain of salt. Highly recommended.
'Video Rewind' -
A one-hour feature, this early attempt at making a unique offering
in the then-infantile home music video market is occasionally
successful and funny. Includes rarely seen "official" videos of
records released from 1978 to 1983, two television performances
from the mid-70's, and a cut-and-paste version of "Brown Sugar",
using footage from several tours.
'Let's Spend the Night Together' -
The home video version of the film of their 1981 US tour, directed
by Hal Ashby. Opinion on this film is widely varying. Some longtime
Stones' enthusiasts are disappointed by the performance, while others
find it an exciting document of a great tour (current author loves
it, but he was 18 when the tour took place!). A video rental costs
you three bucks - we're not going to sweat making a bad recommendation.
'Rolling On' -
A 60-minute television documentary, assembled in 1982, but consisting
of an annoying 'rock' soundtrack (no Jagger-Richards tunes), and some
rarely seen footage from the 'Charlie is My Darling' era (1965). Little
to recommend it except when you mute the horrendous audio tracks, and
watch Jagger work a crowd in some rarely-seen early live footage.
'Gimme Shelter' -
This home video of the documentary of the 1969 tour and the disastrous
free concert that closed it ("Altamont") stands as a classic film
separate from any other rock film due to its' too-true human drama
and its portrait of the end of an era. Refurbished in 1992, the newer
editions of the VHS tape are in Hi-Fi.
'The Stones in the Park' ("import") -
A one-hour Granada TV documentary of the Stones' July 1969 free concert
in London's Hyde Park. The stage debut of new guitarist Mick Taylor, this
show has snippets of some classic performances.
'One plus one (Sympathy for the Devil)' -
A pretentious bore by Jean-Luc Goddard, this film has splices of the
Stones building and recording the classic track 'Sympathy For the Devil'
in the studio. Seeing the Stones 'behind-the-scenes' at work is so rare,
this is a valuable document. No. No. Yes. No. No. No.
'Charlie is My Darling' ("import")
A one-hour documentary of their 1965 tour of Ireland. Some stunningly
funny documentary footage of Keith and Mick, drunk, at a piano and
singing. Also, a nice portrait of the frenzy and excitement that
accompanied their early road work, including a truly frightening mob
scene at a show that got out of hand while the band was playing.
'That was Rock/The TAMI Show' -
The Stones perform five songs in twelve minutes on the "Teenage
Music International" show, filmed in Los Angeles in 1965. Other
guests on the show(s) were Chuck Berry, James Brown, Lesley Gore,
Marvin Gaye, the Supremes, and Ike and Tina Turner. Worth it to
see a young Mick and Diana Ross singing together at the finale.
e. fanzines
* Beggars Banquet
P O Box 6152
New York, NY 10128
(USA)
Monthly - 20 US Dollars in the US, 25 US Dollars for overseas
Originally a 'pure' fanzine written by Bill German, this survived
being the semi-official Fan Club Magazine in the Mid-80's. Rather
tame and uncritical, and perhaps too much 'Bill German and the Stones
(usually Ronnie). Wouldn't be without it.
* Tumbling Dice
9 Collingwood Close
Westage-on-Sea
Kent CT8 8JD
(UK)
Quarterly
9 UK Pounds in UK, 12 UK Pounds in Europe, 18 UK pounds in rest
Only been going since early 1991 and still finding its feet. Each
issue much improved on the previous, and distribution problems
slowly disappearing. No band access.
* Basement News
c/o Dieter Hoffman
Lausitzer Strasse 13
6054 Rodgau 6 (Germany)
$20/3 issues (air mail)
Published by Dieter Hoffman, the author of the Schwarzbuch (Black
Book) bootleg bible and Weissbuch (White Book) listing of legit
releases. Provides detailed information on current band activity,
bootleg reviews, and the scuttlebutt on new Stones or Stones related
record or CD releases.
@Q14. What is/who are
a. "Nanker Phelge"?
The author of several early compositions ("Stoned", "The Underassistant
West Coast Promotion Man"), "Nanker Phelge" is actually a pseudonym used
for group compositions. "Nanker" was the nick name for a rather unpleasant
facial expression band members used to make, and "Phelge" the surname of
an early roommate of Keith, Mick, and Brian's whose personal hygiene left
something to be desired.
b. "The Glimmer Twins"?
The production team known to the world as "The Glimmer Twins" consists
of Mick Jagger and Keith Richards, so dubbed because of a chance encounter
with an elderly woman on vacation, who thought she recognized one of the
Stones, but only had a "glimmer" of the real identity of her find.
c. "Rock and Roll Circus"?
Mere days after the release of 'Beggar's Banquet' in 1968, the band
pulled together a 'circus': a show consisting of real circus performers, and
some progressive rock acts of the day. Jethro Tull, The Who and Eric
Clapton were in attendance, as were lions, trapeze artists, and Yoko Ono.
The idea was to produce a unique television show, but the footage was
eventually shelved, due to what the Stones felt was a sub-standard
performance. It has not been seen to this day, except for a brief
excerpt in the home video entitled '25 x 5', and the Who's performance
of 'A Quick One', seen in their own film/career documentary, 'The Kids
Are Alright'. It has been spotted on bootleg video, but only, as
the saying goes, in an 'umpteenth-generation' presentation. Several
bootlegs of the audio portion exist. It was Brian's last performance
with the band.
The two main musical highlights were a 'supergroup' consisting of
Eric Clapton, John Lennon, Keith Richards, and Mitch Mitchell (of the
Jimi Hendrix Experience), and a performance of several songs
by the Stones themselves, including 'Route 66', 'Confessin' the
Blues', 'Parachute Woman', 'Jumpin' Jack Flash', 'Sympathy for the
Devil', 'No Expectations', 'You Can't Always Get What You Want', and
'Salt of the Earth'.
d. "Altamont"?
The band planned a large, free concert in San Francisco to cap off
their highly successful 1969 tour of the United States, similar to a
successful event they had done in London's Hyde Park several months
earlier. Between permit denials, greed, and a last-minute change of
venue, the event devolved from a potentially powerful West Coast
Woodstock to a poorly-planned mess. A bad choice of security
(American biker gang the "Hell's Angels") contributed to a day-long
sideshow of violence and "bad vibes".
By the time the Stones came on in the evening, tempers were short.
The dramatic stabbing of a spectator by one of the Hell's Angels
during the Stones' set was captured on film in the documentary
"Gimme Shelter", available now on home video.
e. "Cocksucker Blues"?
It is the title of both a notorious slow blues song performed by
Jagger which has been frequently bootlegged, and an unrelated film
project by Robert Frank which was a documentary of the Stones' 1972
American tour.
The song tells the woeful tale of a "lonesome schoolboy" who has come
to the big city (London) but does not know where to find all the
amenities a young man needs. Presented as a single by Jagger to
fulfill a contractual obligation to DECCA records, the label declined
to release it. It did appear very briefly as an 'official' release
as part of a German boxed set in 1984. The box was quickly pulled, and
re-released without the offending tune.
The film is rarely seen, as a unique legal settlement has required
that its' director, Robert Frank, accompany each and every showing of
the film. More bark than bite. Drug-fueled orgies and
all kinds of human degradations were rumoured to be captured on film.
This was more a reflection of what people thought went on on a Stones'
tour than what actually happened. Rather tame, it has some tit, some
drunken revelry, some drug use by band members, and some footage of
the greatest rock and roll band in the world in action.
@Q15. Gossip
a. How many times have they been arrested?
The band's longtime acquaintance with law enforcement started with an
infamous 'pissing' incident in March of 1965 in which Bill Wyman, who
needed to use the rest facilities at a car fuel stop, was not only
refused admittance to the chamber, but told to promptly vacate the
premises. Mick Jagger and Brian Jones joined Bill in pissing against
a wall, and the Stones' image as 'bad boys' was firmly established. In
a remarkable show of solidarity and opportunism, which was not to
be repeated, all five band members showed up at court, several
weeks later...
Unfortunately, being pop-stars in the "swingin' sixties", they were
easy targets for aggressive narcotics enforcement officers. Human
nature and law enforcement being what they are, these officers
descended on the weakest and most vulnerable of the lot, Brian Jones,
with some regularity and viciousness, although by the end of the
Seventies, Mick and Keith also found themselves "busted" several
times, culminating in the most serious case, Keith's 1977 arrest for
heroin possession in Canada, which threatened the continued existence
of the band.
The Eighties, the decade of the "War on Drugs", produced its own
comical efforts at putting Stones Behind Bars, but these were so
poorly executed, they failed almost upon impact. Ron Wood, several
years younger than everyone else in the band, got his own taste in
1980. Although charges were dropped, Mr. Wood was said to have problems
with unspecified drugs in the early eighties, and also to have taken
care of them with a "Betty Ford"-type cure while the Stones were
languishing unused mid-decade.
1965 - "Pissing" incident at a gas/petrol station. Five-pound fines
for Mick, Brian, and Bill are appealed.
1967 - The "Redlands" bust - allegations of carpeted girls and Mars bars.
Keith's conviction on "allowing his premises" overturned on
appeal; Mick's pep-pill possession successfully appealed - he
had been more severely sentenced than an "anonymous young man".
1967 - Brian busted same day as the "Redlands" case court appearance.
1968 - Brian busted for cannabis. Found guilty and fined.
1969 - Hashish possession: Mick and Marianne Faithfull; Marianne
acquitted, Mick is fined.
1972 - Jagger and Richards held on assault of a photographer, start
the evening's show in Boston after midnight.
1972 - Keith's French pied-a-terre is raided; Coke, Hashish, heroin found.
1973 - Keith present when his British residence is raided. Drugs and guns.
1975 - Keith gets in trouble for carrying a knife in Fordyce, Ark.
1977 - Keith fined 750 pounds + costs for coke possession.
1977 - Keith arrested for heroin possession in Canada. Eventually
"sentenced" to play a free concert and take his cure in New Jersey.
1980 - Ron and Jo Howard hang out with the wrong crowd in St. Maarten,
and spend several days in jail for possession of cocaine.
1987 - Jerry Hall gets into some trouble in Barbados when the local
customs people decide a 20-lb. package of marijuana is hers.
The "Kangaroo Customs" officers screw their own case, and Jerry
is found 'not guilty'.
b. How many times have they been married?
Both Charlie Watts and Keith Richards are on their first marriages.
Charlie married in 1964, Keith 19 years later. Brian Jones was never
married. Mick Jagger and Ron Wood are both on their second marriages,
to women they met in 1977. Ex-Stone Bill Wyman was the only member
married when he joined the group, and he entered his third legal
marriage shortly after leaving the group in 1993.
c. Will the band break up?
At some point, we believe.
d. Are they going to tour again?
As of this writing, there are plans for the band to tour the
United States in the Summer of 1994, to promote an album that
should be out by then.
e. Is this the last time, really?
They were first asked this in 1966.
f. How old ARE they?
Birthdays are as follows:
Jagger July 26, 1943
Jones Feb. 28, 1942 (dismissed June 8, 1969; died July 1, 1969)
Richards Dec. 18, 1943
Stewart July 18, 1938 (died December 12, 1985)
Taylor Jan. 17, 1948 (quit December, 1974)
Watts Jun. 02, 1941
Wood Jun. 01, 1947
Wyman Oct. 24, 1936 (quit 1993)
@Q16. Myths & legends:
a. Did Keith really get his blood changed?
It was a widely circulated rumour that to cure himself of an addiction
to heroin, Keith Richards flew to the Swiss chalet of an exclusive
physician who had a method for replacing all of a patient's nasty
addicted blood with good clean blood.
Great gossip. Bad science.
While it has been claimed in print by at least one biographer, this
author was also Keith's dealer for several years. It is widely
considered to be little more than another colorful urban legend.
b. Do they worship satan?
Among the phenomena that have become known to us since the formation
of the Rolling Stones are: CDs, wireless amps, home video, and
Serious Rock Criticism. Early Serious Rock Critics, trying in vain
to capture in prose the mystique, wonder, beauty, arrogance, and power
of the Rolling Stones, would often resort to demonic imagery. It did
not help matters that the band released songs like "Sympathy for the
Devil", or that Jagger performed in a swirling cape bathed in red
light. Blame this one on the old "four blind men describing an
elephant" syndrome.
Professional demonist and man-about-town Kenneth Anger once asserted
that Anita Pallenberg (Keith's paramour in the Stones' supposed
'demonic' period) was a 'witch'. But that's Kenneth Anger.
c. Is Paul dead?
He is rumoured to have shown up at a Rolling Stones concert in
New York City in 1978 to catch the festivities. Other than that,
no one seems to care.
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Part Two
The Rolling Stones--Live and Unreleased Audio
(Version 1.2a)
This is an introduction and guide to the live concert and studio
outtake recordings of the Rolling Stones. This information is for
educational purposes only.
The Rolling Stones have been around for 30 years and have released
many albums. However, for some fans, they haven't released enough.
This is a guide for those fans who want to know what the Stones were
doing on their many unrecorded tours, or are curious to hear the
various working stages of a classic song. The only way to hear
this is from unauthorized recordings.
Unauthorized recordings may be either live concerts or studio
outtakes. Live concerts may be recorded in several ways: In the
audience using a hand held tape recorder, by a sound man from the
soundboard, or from a radio broadcast. Audience recordings will
generally sound the worst, but modern technology makes it possible
to have very good audience recordings. Studio outtakes are
generally of good quality as the recording is usually professionally
done. In all cases, sound quality will deteriorate as analog copies
are made from one generation to the next.
Here is a partial list of unauthorized recordings by the Rolling
Stones. Some of these are easy to find, others are out of print.
Most but not all are available on CD. Listings are by location,
date, length, quality, and source. Quality ratings are from 1 to 10
and are REALISTIC, with 1 being unlistenable and 10 being perfect
release quality. 'm' indicates mono, 's' stereo, and 'es' electronic
stereo. Also included are typical sets for live concerts.
This list is not complete. I have omitted many obscure LPs, CDs,
and tape only performances. Many of the best recorded performances
have been released by as many as 10 different companies; I have
listed only the best or one of the best versions.
Part 1: The Early Years with Brian Jones
Most of the recordings from this period are either from media
appearances such as the BBC and TV shows, or studio outtakes.
Although the band toured constantly, there are few unauthorized
concert recordings. This was the time of Beatlemania, and screaming
girls and often riots at concerts. With the extremely primitive PA
systems of the era, the Stones were frequently drowned out by the
screaming audience.
Set lists:
Second English tour, Feb./March 1964: Talking About
You, Roadrunner, Roll Over Beethoven, You Better Move On, Beautiful
Delilah, It's Alright, Not Fade Away, I Wanna Be Your Man.
September/October 1964 UK tour: I Just Wanna Make Love to You,
Walking the Dog, If You Need Me, It's Alright, Around and Around,
It's All Over Now.
March 1965 UK tour: Everybody Needs Somebody to Love, Pain in My
Heart, Down the Road Apiece, Time is on My Side, I'm Moving On, It's
Alright, Little Red Rooster, Route 66, The Last Time, Everybody
Needs Somebody to Love.
September/October 1965 UK tour: Mercy Mercy, Cry to Me, The Last
Time, Oh Baby We Got a Good Thing Going, I'm Moving On, She Said
Yeah, Everybody Needs Somebody to Love, That's How Strong My Love
is, Talkin' 'bout You.
Paris March 28, 1966: The Last Time, Mercy Mercy, She Said Yeah,
Play with Fire, Not Fade Away, That's How Strong My Love is, I'm
Moving On, The Spider and the Fly, Time is on My Side, 19th Nervous
Breakdown, Around and Around, Get Off of My Cloud, It's Alright,
Satisfaction.
Paris April 11, 1967: Paint It Black, 19th Nervous Breakdown, Lady
Jane, Get Off of My Cloud, Yesterday's Papers, Under My Thumb, Ruby
Tuesday, Let's Spend the Night Together, Going Home, Satisfaction.
Other recordings are available, but these are the best/most common:
BBC '63-'65; 52 min; 9.5 m&s; "Get Satisfaction if You Want"
BBC TV & ITV '63-'65; 50 min; 8.0 m; "Crackin' Up"
Ed Sullivan TV '64-'67; 7.5 m; "Conquer America"
Outtakes '63-'65; 30 min; 9.0 s; "Bright Lights Big City"
Outtakes '64-'73; 70 min 8.0 s; "Mad Shadows"
Unreleased stereo mixes of '65-'67 hits;
20 min; 7.5 s; "Dartford Renegades"
Paris 4/18/65; 40 min; 7.0 m; "L'Olympia"
Honolulu 7/28/66; 30 min; 7.5 m; "In Action"
Part 1a: Brian is phased out
The Stones did their last tour with Brian in the spring of 1967.
They were unable to tour after that due to Brian's legal and health
problems. The Rock and Roll Circus was to be a way around this,
bringing the performance to the audience instead of the other way
around.
"Sympathy..." rehearsals 5-6/68; 20 min; 7.0 m; "Angie"
Outtakes '68-'72; 70 min; 8.0 s; "On the Rocks"
Outtakes '68-'72; 85 min; 9.5 s; "Trident Mixes"
Outtakes/ diff. mixes '68-'73; 100 min; 10.0 s; "Time Trip"
Rock & Roll Circus 12/12/68; 18 min; 8.0 m; "R&R Circus"
Part 2: The middle period with Mick Taylor
After the forced exit of Brian, the Stones hired Mick Taylor as new
lead guitarist. His excellent playing made this lineup arguably the
best for live performances.
His first gig with them, Hyde Park, became a tribute to Brian. It
took place only 2 days after his death and featured several songs
which would not be played live again.
Hyde Park, 7/5/69; 85 min; 8.0 m; "Stones in the Park"
The first actual tour with Mick Taylor was the fall/winter 1969 US
Tour. "Let It Bleed" was released at the end of the tour. Toward
the end of the tour the band did some recordings at Muscle Shoals,
Alabama. New York, Muscle Shoals, and Altamont are documented in
the movie "Gimme Shelter."
Typical set for 1969 US tour: Jumping Jack Flash, Carol, Sympathy
for the Devil, Stray Cat Blues, Love in Vain, Prodigal Son (not at
all shows), You Gotta Move (not at all shows), Under My Thumb,
Midnight Rambler, Live with Me, Little Queenie, Satisfaction, Honky
Tonk Woman, Street Fighting Man. Played infrequently: I'm Free,
Gimme Shelter. Played only at Altamont: The Sun is Shining (by
Jimmy Reed), Brown Sugar.
The 1969 US tour established a pattern which would continue until
1982: US tour every 3 years, with a European tour the following
year. There was no 1979 European tour, but the New Barbarians
toured that year.
Other recordings are available, but these are the best/most common:
Oakland 11/9/69 2nd show; 70 min; 8.0 m; "Liver Than You'll Ever Be"
San Diego 11/10/69; 45 min; 8.0 m; "Stoneaged"
Outtakes '69-'74, studio&live; 30 min; 8.5 s; "A Shot of Salvation"
Altamont Speedway 12/6/69; 82 min; 5.5 es; "Altamont"
In early 1970, the first Stones bootleg record came out, called
"Liver Than You'll Ever Be." It was the second bootleg of a major
rock band, after Dylan's "Great White Wonder." At that time, being
bootlegged was almost prestigious, a far cry from the way things are
today. "Liver Than" was even reviewed in "Rolling Stone" magazine
in the February 7, 1970 issue.
There are no really excellent recordings from the next tour, Europe
1970. Musically, it was similar to the 1969 US tour except that a
horn section was used for the first time.
Typical set for 1970 European tour: Jumping Jack Flash, Roll Over
Beethoven, Sympathy for the Devil, Stray Cat Blues, Love in Vain,
Prodigal Son, Dead Flowers, Midnight Rambler, Live with Me, Little
Queenie, Let it Rock, Brown Sugar, Honky Tonk Woman, Street Fighting
Man. Played infrequently: Gimme Shelter.
Berlin 9/16/70; 45 min; 7.0 m; "CS Roll Over Berlin"
Essen 10/07/70; 50 min; 7.0 m; "European Tour 1970"
Before their contract with Decca expired, The Stones were required
to record one more song. Fed up with Decca, they recored Cocksucker
Blues. Its unauthorized releases are frequently paired with a
studio outtake of Brown Sugar featuring Eric Clapton on third
guitar.
"CS Blues"/"Brown Sugar" w/Clapton; 10 min; 10.0 s; "CS Blues"
The band did a farewell tour of England in 1971 before leaving as
tax exiles. "Sticky Fingers" was released after this tour.
Typical set for 1971 English tour: Jumping Jack Flash, Live with
Me, Dead Flowers, Stray Cat Blues, Love in Vain, Midnight Rambler,
Bitch, Honky Tonk Woman, Satisfaction, Little Queenie, Brown Sugar,
Street Fighting Man. Played infrequently: I Got the Blues, Let It
Rock (encore).
Leeds, UK 3/13/71; 60 min; 10.0 m; "Get Your Leeds Lungs Out"
Marquee Club 3/26/71; 40 min; 7.0 m; "Marquee Club"
"Exile on Main Street" was recorded in the basement of Keith's house
in France. Outtakes are available.
"Exile" outtakes; 35 min; 8.0 s; "Tropical Disease"
Rehearsing for their 1972 US tour, the Stones were filmed by the BBC.
Montreux rehearsals 5/21/72; 25 min; 9.0 m; "Time Trip"
The 1972 US tour in support of "Exile on Main Street" was sucessful
both musically and financially. Not one but two movies were made,
the unreleased behind-the-scenes "Cocksucker Blues" and the concert
documentary "Ladies and Gentlemen the Rolling Stones." There was to
be a double LP live album but it remains unreleased due to Decca
withholding the rights to several songs.
Typical set for 1972 US tour: Brown Sugar, Bitch, Rocks Off, Gimme
Shelter, Happy, Tumbling Dice, Love in Vain, Sweet Virginia, You
Can't Always Get What You Want, All Down the Line, Midnight Rambler,
Bye Bye Johnny, Rip This Joint, Jumping Jack Flash, Street Fighting
Man, Uptight/Satisfaction. Played infrequently: Loving Cup, Torn
and Frayed, Ventilator Blues, Honky Tonk Woman, Don't Lie to Me.
Other recordings are available, but these are the best/most common:
Dallas 6/23/72 reh.; 135 min; 7.5 s; "Stones Touring Party"
"Ladies & Gentlemen" soundtrack; 80 min; 7.0 m; video
Charlotte, NC 7/6/72; 70 min; 6.5 s; "Back to the Roots"
Philadelphia + Fort Worth; 170 min; 8.5 s; "Philadelphia Special"
(1 & 2)
MSG, NYC 7/26/72; 45 min; 8.5 s; "Welcome to New York"
From this point on, most concerts would be recorded by someone in
the audience.
The next tour was to Australia with a few stops along the way.
Typical set for winter 1973 tour: Brown Sugar, Bitch, Rocks Off,
Gimme Shelter, Happy, Tumbling Dice, Love in Vain, Sweet Virginia,
You Can't Always Get What You Want, Honky Tonk Woman, All Down the
Line, Midnight Rambler, Little Queenie, Rip This Joint, Jumping Jack
Flash, Street Fighting Man. Played infrequently: Route 66, It's
All Over Now, No expectations, Live with Me.
LA Forum 1/18/73; 80 min; 6.5 m; "Winter Tour 1973"
Honolulu 1/21/73 1st show; 75 min; 7.0 s; "Honolulu"
Melbourne 2/17/73; 73 min; 7.0 m; "Temperature Rising"
Perth, Australia 2/24/73; 50 min; 9.0 s; "Rocks Off"
Sydney 2/26/73; 65 min; 8.5 s; "Happy Birthday Nicky"
To promote "Goats Head Soup" the Stones recorded 4 songs for Don
Kirshner's TV show.
Don Kirshner TV 7/17/73; 20 min; 8.5 m; "Angie"
For the fall of 1973 there was a European tour. The King Biscuit
Flour Hour broadcast from Brussels and London is widely circulated.
Typical set for 1973 European tour: Brown Sugar, Gimme Shelter,
Happy, Tumbling Dice, Star Star (deleted from KBFH broadcast),
Angie, You Can't Always Get What You Want, Dancing with Mr. D,
Heartbreaker (first half of tour only), Midnight Rambler, Honky Tonk
Woman, All Down the Line, Rip This Joint, Jumping Jack Flash, Street
Fighting Man. Played infrequently: Bitch, 100 Years Ago, Silver
Train, Sweet Virginia.
Other recordings are available, but these are the best/most common:
Luxemburg radio '73 (various); 30 min; 9.5 m; "A Shot of Salvation"
Brussels 10/17/73 + London 9/9/73; 75 min; 9.5 s; "Brussels Affair"
To promote "It's Only Rock and Roll," the band again appeared on
Don Kirshner's TV show.
Don Kirshner TV 7/74; 15 min; video
Part 3: The Ron Wood era:
Just before the Stones were to go into the studio and record "Black
and Blue," Mick Taylor abruptly quit. Three different guest
guitarists ended up on the album, and the band also jammed with Jeff
Beck, but when they toured the US in 1975, Ronnie Wood was the
"guest" lead guitarist.
The 1975 and 1976 tours featured much longer sets than had been
played in the past. Billy Preston also performed two songs at each
show.
Typical set for 1975 US tour: Honky Tonk Woman, All Down the Line,
If You Can't Rock Me/ Get Off of My Cloud, Star Star, Gimme Shelter,
Ain't Too Proud to Beg, You Gotta Move, You Can't Always Get What
You Want, Happy, Tumbling Dice, It's Only Rock and Roll,
Heartbreaker, Fingerprint File, Angie, Wild Horses, That's Life,
Outta Space (both sung by Billy Preston), Brown Sugar, Midnight
Rambler, Rip This Joint, Street Fighting Man, Jumping Jack Flash.
Played infrequently: Rocks Off, Sure the One You Need, Star Star,
Gimme Shelter, Luxury, Dance Little Sister, Cherry Oh Baby, Sympathy
for the Devil (encore at about half the shows).
Other recordings are available, but these are the best/most common:
Outtakes '73-'79; 45 min; 9.5 s; "Lonely at the Top"
Buffalo 6/15/75; 65 min; 7.5 s; "Hot As Hell"
NYC 6/27/75; 65 min; 7.5 s; "Welcome Back to NY"
LA Forum 7/11/75; 160 min; 7.5 m; "Rockin' at the Forum"
LA Forum 7/13/75; 90 min; 8.0 s; "I Never Talked to Chuck Berry"
Cow Palace, SF 7/15/75; 120 min; 7.0 s; "It's Only Rock & Roll"
Detroit 7/28/75; 90 min; 7.5 m; "Rock and Roll Goes on the Road
Again"
The 1976 European tour was musically similar to the 1975 US tour,
except that songs from "Black and Blue" were played.
Typical set for 1976 European tour: Honky Tonk Woman, If You Can't
Rock Me/ Get Off of My Cloud, Hand of Fate, Hey Negrita, Ain't Too
Proud to Beg, Fool to Cry, Hot Stuff, Star Star, Angie, You Gotta
Move, You Can't Always Get What You Want, Happy, Tumbling Dice,
Nothing from Nothing, Outta Space (both sung by Billy Preston),
Midnight Rambler, It's Only Rock and Roll, Brown Sugar, Midnight
Rambler, Street Fighting Man, Jumping Jack Flash. Played
infrequently: Rip This Joint, Cherry Oh Baby, Sympathy for the
Devil. Played at Knebworth only: Satisfaction, Around and Around,
Little Red Rooster, Stray Cat Blues, Let's Spend the Night Together,
Dead Flowers, Route 66, Wild Horses, Honky Tonk Woman.
Other recordings are available, but these are the best/most common:
Frankfurt 4/29/76; 45 min; 7.5 s; "Frankfurt 1976"
Paris 6/6/76; 100 min; 8.5 m; "Paris Aux Printemps"
Paris 6/7/76; 125 min; 7.0 m/8.5 s; "Vive La France","Paris Par Exc."
Lyon 6/9/76; 71 min; 8.0 s; "Backstage Limited"
Knebworth 8/21/76; 90 min; 8.5 s; "Hot August Night"
The Stones came to Toronto in early 1977 to record live at the El
Mocambo Club. Keith was arrested there for heroin possession, but
recording took place and became side 3 of "Love You Live."
Toronto 3/4 & 3/5/77; 40 min; 8.5 s; "El Mocambo Club '77"
The next studio album was "Some Girls." Outtakes are available.
Outtakes late '77; 100 min; 9.0 s; "Paris Outtakes" I & II
For the 1978 US tour, the band played most of the album and dropped
many older songs. Billy Preston was sacked; keyboardists Ian
Stewart and Ian McLagan were featured prominently. At the end of
the tour, the Stones appeared on Saturday Night Live.
Typical set for 1978 US tour: Let It Rock, All Down the Line, Honky
Tonk Woman, Star Star, When the Whip Comes Down, Lies, Miss You,
Beast of Burden, Just My Imagination, Shattered, Respectable, Far
Away Eyes, Love in Vain, Tumbling Dice, Happy, Sweet Little Sixteen,
Brown Sugar, Jumping Jack Flash. Played infrequently: Hound Dog,
Satisfaction, Street Fighting Man.
Woodstock '78 reh. + outtakes; 60 min; 8.5 s; "'78 Tour Reh."
Passaic, NJ 6/14/78; 90 min; 9.0 s; "Garden State 78"
US radio '78 (various); 90 min; 9.5 s; "A Summer Romance"
(There are different versions of the radio broadcasts; for example
there, are two different versions of "Shattered," from different
cities. This tour was heavily bootlegged; about 75% of the tour
dates are available on vinyl.)
Keith's sentence for heroin possession was light: to do a benefit
concert for the Canadian National Institute for the Blind. At the
start of the New Barbarians tour in Toronto, the Stones made a
surprise appearance.
Toronto 4/22/79 w/Barbarians; 90 min; 8.0 s; "Blind Date"
"Emotional Rescue" outtakes are available.
"Emotional Rescue" outtakes; 67 min; quality excellent minus;
"Emotional Rescue Demos"
The next tour was in the US, 1981, for "Tattoo You." There was an
official live album, "Still Life," and movie, "Let's Spend the Night
Together."
Typical set for 1981 US tour: Under My Thumb, When the Whip Comes
Down, Let's Spend the Night Together, Shattered, Neighbors, Black
Limousine, Just My Imagination, 20 Flight Rock, Going to a Go Go,
Let Me Go, Time is on My Side, Beast of Burden, Waiting on a Friend,
Let It Bleed, You Can't Always Get What You Want, Little T&A,
Tumbling Dice, She's So Cold, All Down the Line, Hang Fire, Star
Star, Miss You, Start Me Up, Honky Tonk Woman, Brown Sugar, Jumping
Jack Flash, Street Fighting Man (a few shows), and/or Satisfaction
(most shows). Played infrequently: Tops, Down the Road Apiece,
Mona, Star Star.
USA '81 (various, FM); 90 min; 9.5 s; "Time is on Our Side"
Seattle 10/15/81; 125 min; 8.5 s; "...More Than Ever"
Chicago 11/22/81 ??? min; excellent copies circulate,
w/Muddy Waters; as does boot video.
Kansas City 12/1?/81; 145 min; 8.0 s; "Together At Last" (partly
w/Mick Taylor on third guitar)
Hampton, VA 12/18/81; 140 min; 10.0 s; "Hampton '81"
(The Hampton and various FM broadcasts are avaliable on many
different LPs and CDs. As with the '78 broadcasts, different
versions of some songs are available. About two thirds of the tour
dates are available on vinyl. Hampton was a pay-per-view cable
special, and many bootleg videos circulate.)
The 1982 European tour was musically similar to the 1981 tour.
Typical set for 1982 European tour: Under My Thumb, When the Whip
Comes Down, Let's Spend the Night Together, Shattered, Neighbors,
Black Limousine, Just My Imagination, 20 Flight Rock, Going to a Go
Go, Chantilly Lace, Let Me Go, Time is on My Side, Beast of Burden,
Let It Bleed, You Can't Always Get What You Want, Little T&A,
Tumbling Dice, She's So Cold, Hang Fire, Miss You, Honky Tonk Woman,
Brown Sugar, Start Me Up, Jumping Jack Flash, Satisfaction.
Gothenburg, Sweden 6/19/82; 130 min; 8.0 m; "One More Time"
Gothenburg, Sweden 6/20/82; 85 min; 8.0 s; "Drinking and Dancing"
(About two thirds of the tour dates are available on vinyl.)
Due to tensions within the band, there was no touring again until 1989.
Outtakes are available for "Dirty Work."
"Dirty Work" outtakes 7-11/85; 69 min; quality excellent minus;
"Dirtiest Work"
After much speculation if there would ever be another tour, the
Stones finally toured the US in 1989 in support of "Steel Wheels."
For the first time, most of the live material was not from the new
album. Each concert was a look back on their long career, and they
performed songs that had never been attempted live. The band also
used a much larger cast of supporting musicians than in the past.
The Stones "toured" Japan in February by playing in Tokyo for about
10 days.
Typical set for 1989 Steel Wheels US tour: Start Me Up, Bitch, Sad
Sad Sad, Undercover of the Night, Harlem Shuffle, Tumbling Dice,
Miss You, Ruby Tuesday, Play with Fire, Rock and a Hard Place, Mixed
Emotions, Honky Tonk Woman, Midnight Rambler, You Can't Always Get
What You Want, Little Red Rooster (not at all shows), Before They
Make Me Run or Can't Be Seen, Happy, Paint It Black, 2000 Light
Years from Home, Sympathy for the Devil, Gimme Shelter, It's Only
Rock and Roll, Brown Sugar, Satisfaction, Jumping Jack Flash.
Played infrequently: Shattered, Salt of the Earth, Dead Flowers,
One Hit to the Body, Angie, Almost Hear You Sigh, Terrifying.
Toronto 9/3/89; full show minus about 5 songs; excellent copies
circulate. (also, a "pro-shot" video exists)
Dallas 11/11/89; 145 min; 8.5 m; "Texas Rangers"
Atlanta 11/21/89; 120 min; unknown/good quality; "Back in Business"
LA 10/19/89; ??? min; quality should be good; "Mixed Emotions"
Atlantic City 12/19/89; 150 min; 10.0 s; many CDs (frequently video)
Tokyo 2/26/90; 140 min; 10.0 s; "The Steel Wheels Performances"
The 1990 Urban Jungle Tour was musically similar to the Steel Wheels
tour. Typical set for Urban Jungle Tour: Start Me Up, Sad Sad Sad,
Harlem Shuffle, Tumbling Dice, Miss You, Almost Hear You Sigh, Ruby
Tuesday, Rock and a Hard Place, Mixed Emotions, Honky Tonk Woman,
Midnight Rambler, You Can't Always Get What You Want, Can't Be Seen
(3/4 of shows), or Before They Make Me Run (1/4 of shows), Happy,
Paint It Black, 2000 Light Years from Home, Sympathy for the Devil,
Street Fighting Man, Gimme Shelter, It's Only Rock and Roll, Brown
Sugar, Jumping Jack Flash, Satisfaction. Played infrequently:
Bitch, Angie, Dead Flowers, Factory Girl, Blinded by Love,
Terrifying, Little Red Rooster, I Just Wanna Make Love to You.
Basel, Switz. 6/27/90; 145 min; 7.5 s; "Basel '90"
London 7/7/90; 135 min; 10.0 s; "Seventh of July"
Notes on collecting CDs:
There are many different companies producing CDs of various
legality. The most easily available CDs are those which are legal
in some European countries such as Italy, Luxemburg, and Germany.
These are CDs made by The Swingin' Pig, Oh Boy, Living Legend, Great
Dane, Bulldog, WPOCM, The Genuine Pig, and others. These are
apparently legal because the companies pay royalties to the record
companies in those countries. They are not legal in other countries
like the US or the UK.
The best of these, by far, is the Swingin' Pig. All of their CDs
are mastered from tapes, unlike some companies which use old
records, and they generally use the best available tape for a
particular show. On the downside, they sometimes overdo the noise
reduction, which makes the music sound bassy and compressed.
Oh Boy is another good label. The next level down is labels such as
Living Legend and Great Dane. They do not appear to have access to
any rare tapes, and so must resort to copying old records and other
CDs, but at least they do a decent job.
Bulldog, WPOCM, and The Genuine Pig are all to be avoided. They
also copy other LPs and CDs but generally do a bad job. The Genuine
Pig series of "Ultra Rare Tracks" is particularly bad, with way too
much noise reduction on many tracks, and all the decent sounding
tracks available elsewhere.
Other companies don't bother with details like royalties; these
bootlegs are illegal in all countries. The best of these labels is
Scorpio, which seems to go by several different names. Unlike most
labels, they concentrate on studio outtakes, and are the only label
consistently putting out "new" material. They still aren't above
dubbing some tracks off old records here and there, however.
The Vigatone label has produced only a few Stones CDs but they are
all excellent, from tapes. The Chameleon or "Chamelion" label is
also excellent.
"Terappin" or Terrapin label CDs are very hard to come by but are
mostly rare material in decent to good quality.
Japanese CDs on labels such as Digger Productions, Hot Lips Records,
Golden Hits Records, Alley Cat, and Idol Mind are generally hard to
come by in the US but often have rare material. The quality of these
varies widely.
_Bibliography_
Basement News fanzines. Rodgau, Germany: Dieter Hoffmann
Hoffmann, Dieter. Das Rolling Stones Schwarzbuch (Black Book).
Vaihingen, Germany: New Media Verlag, 1987.
Hoffmann, Dieter. Rolling Stones--Das Weissbuch (White Book).
Winsen, Germany: New Media Records, 1991.
No Expectations fanzine. No. 9, January, 1992. Lerdala, Sweden:
Mats Jarl
Stember, Wilfried. The Rolling Stones Collector's File 2.
Dortmund, Germany: Stember, 1984.
Zentgraf, Nico. Collector's Delight or Collector's Disease?
Berlin, Germany: Zentgraf, 1992.
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Part Three
The Rolling Stones--The Bibliography From Hell
Prepared and maintained by: Stephen D. Carter
(S.D.Carter@Sussex.ac.uk) or
(stevedc@central.sussex.ac.uk)
The Rolling Stones, unlike the Beatles, seem to have had few
even half-decent authors or publishers produce books about
them. The majority of the books on this list are, frankly,
not too good. A few (Stone Alone, etc) are imperative!
Read this list, and the books, with low expectations!
Part one of the FAQ list has recommendations on the five best
books (in print and out).
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This list has been constructed with help from many people, to
whom many thanks.
Among them are : D.H., Tony Rzepela, Bruce Dumes, and
several others who, if they email me will be duly credited!
Whoops, lost my earlier list!
I am happy to receive email comments about errors in this
list, and information about books that are not on it.
Citations list author, title, year, and finally, ISBN.
--------------------------------------------------
ed Buford, Bill
Granta (1984)
0140075658
Granta is a quarterly book/magazine of 'New English Writing' Issue
12 consists largely of an extensive extract from Stanley Booth's
"True Adventures of the Rolling Stones"
ed Dean, Johnny
The Rolling Stones Book (1964)
Date unclear, but precedes the Rolling Stones Monthly from the same
publishers. Nice photos - a real period piece. Even has a bit about
'The Official Rolling Stones Fan Club' 93/97 Regent St. Now,
whatever became of that!?
ed Drake, Nicholas
The Sixties : A Decade in Vogue (1988)
0187130726
Reproductions of some of the best of the always high quality
illustrations from Vogue in the 60's.
Inevitably the Stones and their circle appear.
Nice book - buy if remaindered.
ed Goodman, Pete
Our Own Story by The Rolling Stones (1964)
Wonderful period piece that asserts it is 'as we told it to Pete
Goodman'.
Written for mass consumption at the start of the band's career.
ed Grant, Nigel
A Pixerama Foldbook of the Rolling Stones (1964)
A very early period piece - 12 small photo's of the band in a
concertina fold out style. The text is superbly dated, and very
wrong in places. "The lads got their name for the group from a
Chuck Berry song 'The Rolling Stones'".
Buy it if you ever see it.
ed Jagger, Mick
The Rolling Stones Monthly Book (1964)
Short lived (30 issues) monthly 'Official Rolling Stones Book edited
by the Stones for their Fans' from the same stable as the still
running Beatles Monthly.
Despite the fact that it is mostly the product of the imagination of
a press/publicity crew it is worth getting if you ever (unlikely)
see it. Re-issue long overdue.
ed Robins, Joyce
The Sixties : The Style : The Sounds : The Stars (1984)
0862731895
A 64 page rush through the music of the turbulent 60's. Produced by
Marks & Spencer, so quality is good. Nothing profound, only a bit
on the Stones.
ed Rolling Stone
The Rolling Stones (1976)
A compilation of the main features on the Stones from Rolling Stone
covering the first interview in 1968 through to 1975.
Excellent.
ed Jack Scott, Nick Logan
Greatest Hits : Very Best of NME (1974)
1850371473
A selection of the best interviews from NME. Good interview with
Mick - Roy Carr interviewer.
(Unknown)
The Rolling Stones : 24 Posters (1983)
0862830605
24 nicely printed pictures (not posters) from the 81 Tour. No text.
Marginal value.
Aeppli, Felix
Heart of Stone : The Definitive Rolling Stones Discography (1985)
0876501927
Well indexed and and as thoroughly researched as a book without
'official' backing could be. Although it is extensive and thorough,
sources close to the band dismiss this book as dreadfully
inaccurate.
An obvious need exists for an authorized version.
Aftel, Mandy
Death of a Rolling Stone : The Brian Jones Story (1982)
0283989459
Reasonably good biography of the life and death of Brian. Good
photo's, and research are spoiled by the author's uncritical
approach to Brian.
Atalanta Press
The Rolling Stones : Poster Book (1989)
1870049225
Large format, well printed book of 20 pullout posters. Pretty. For
complete-ists only.
Barnard, Stephen
The Rolling Stones : Street Fighting Years (1993)
1851708626
Excellent book. Despite being so big that it is hernia inducing.
Superb photo selection, reproduced with great clarity. The text
(not matching the photo's) should be read as a series of essays
(with flaws). Photo's arranged (seemingly) randomly - but some
great ones!
Grab this book!
Bockris, Victor
Keith Richards : The Biography (1992)
0091743974
In a field where few serious biographies exist, any gallant attempt
should be welcomed. But. .
This book suffers from poor editing, from the (bizarre IMHO) view
that much of the success of the Stones stems from the homo-erotic
relationship of Jagger/Richards/Jones. Later parts read as slick
cuttings jobs. I'm glad my copy was a half price remainder!
Bonanno, Massimo
The Rolling Stones Chronicle : The first thirty years (1990)
0859651355
Chronologically arranged list of hi-lights and low spots from the
first 30 years.
Nice photo's, but the number of entries ensures a generally shallow
approach. The early years (62/3) are better than most books - but
still flawed.
Booth, Stanley
Dance With The Devil (1984)
0394534883
US version of 'True Adventures'
Booth, Stanley
The True Adventures of the Rolling Stones (1985)
0434081000
In 1969 Stanley Booth was granted the rights to put together a book
about the Stones. 16 years later it came out. An entertaining
read, full of racy tales and the like - both from the Stone and from
the author.
How much is true? Who cares!
(Extract first published in Granta)
Carr, Roy
The Rolling Stones : An Illustrated Record (1976)
Well researched and illustrated restospective. Some good stuff from
the very early years (62/63).
Carty, Terry
Tumbling Dice
1991 UK based attempt to get a fanzine off the ground. After 7
issues (as of Sept '93) it seems to be stabilizing.
Enthusiastic and deserving of support.
Tumbling Dice, 9 Collingwood Close, Westgate on Sea, Kent CT8 8JDUK
Charone, Barbara
Keith Richards (1979)
0708816584
Quite a well researched biography about one half of the Glimmer
Twins. Too uncritical to be of real value. Access to Keith assured
some unusual photo's.
Updated 1982 version in US.
Michael Cooper & Terry Southern
The Early Stones : Legendary photographs of a band in the making (1993)
0436201372
A book of Michael Cooper's photo's, with a foreword (and comments by
Keef) could hardly fail. This one nearly does.
Illegible text, poor printing of ace photo's, and even some mistakes
(P157=nonsense).
However, this is an essential book!
Dalton, David
The Rolling Stones : The First Twenty Years (1981)
0500272611
Well researched, well produced and illustrated retrospective on the
Stones.
Time for an update - the First Thirty Years?
David Dalton & Mick Farren
Rolling Stones in their own Words (1980)
0860015416
One of an extensive series of similar volumes. Well presented
collection of quotes - sorted by topic. Nice photo's. Being quotes
it steers clear of the risk of bad research!
(Reissued with some updates in 1985)
ed David Dalton
The Rolling Stones : The Greatest Rock'n'Roll Band in the World (1975)
0352300922
Quite an early and well written account of the band. It does not
attempt to be a 'boigraphy, but is collection of essays/accounts on
various aspects. As such it succeeds.
(Reissued in with updates in 1979)
Dalton, David
The Rolling Stones - An Unauthorized Biography in Words, . . . (1972)
This is Dalton's first book on The Stones, which he has revised
several times. It is loaded with outstanding pictures and the text
is good.
Difficult to find.
(Thanks to D. H.)
ed Johnny Dean
Record Collector
Monthly magazine from the original publishers of both the Beatles
and Rolling Stones Monthly Magazines. The issues that have special
features on the Stones are worth getting.
Issues : 37,45,49,61,74,79,87,93,101,104,111,113,117,124,
125,130,136,142,168.
43/45 St Mary's Road, Ealing, London, W5 5RQ. UK
Dimmick, Mary Laverne
The Rolling Stones - An Annotated Bibliography (1979)
Just what it says, she adds her knowlegable comments about the books
(etc) listed. Much less complete than "Yesterday's Papers" but more
user friendly.
(Thanks to D. H.)
Dowley, Tim
The Rolling Stones (1983)
0882547348
Dreadful.
Elliott, Martin
The Rolling Stones Complete Recording Sessions (1990)
0713721189
Any book claiming to be 'complete' that is produced without access
to either the Stones' own sources, or even Alan Klein's is doomed.
A brave attempt, but flawed.
Simply demonstrates the need for an authorized version.
Elman, Richard
Uptight With The Stones (1973)
Short book which documents a small part of their 1972 US Tour.
Elman is a good writer but doesn't know that much about The Stones.
Extremely difficult to find.
(Thanks to D. H.)
Flippo, Chet
It's Only Rock and Roll : My On The Road Adventures with the Rolling Stones
(1985)
0312038518
Long account of Chet's years on the road thru 75, 78 and 79 with the
Stones. Worthwhile thoughts on the Stones - at times
thought-provoking, at times funny, as well as accurate reportage of
life in the big league.
Enjoyable and recommended. Strangely never available in the UK.
Frame, Pete
Rock Family Trees (1979)
0860014142
This book, an essential part of any book collection, charts the
evolution of various groups.
The Stones are shown linked to the Pretty Things (by Dick Taylor)
and tenuously to The Kinks.
Frame, Pete
Rock Gazetteer of Great Britain (1989)
0950540263
Essential reading for any serious student of UK rock music, which of
course dominates the world. Lots of short (often witty) paragraphs
about rock's famous places the length and breadth of the land.
Could do with an index though!
David Fricke & Robert Sandall
Rolling Stones : Images of the World Tour 1989-90 (1990)
1852830816
This 'official' photographic record of the tour is very
disappointing. The unique access by chosen photographers could have
and should have produced a better (in every way) book.
The photos should all have been dated and the location noted.
German, Bill
Beggars Banquet
A semi-official monthly newsletter about the Stones. Bill German
has good access to Ronnie. Worth subscribing.
Beggars Banquet, PO Box 6152, New York, NY 10128
Geoffrey Giuliano & Cris Eborn
Not Fade Away : The Rolling Stones Collection (1992)
1850282161
An abolutely SUPERB book full of SUPERB illustrations of what is (I
guess) the second Best Stones Collection - Chris Eborn's Wonderful
printing, well composed, incredible value. Let down rather by the
text - apart from the captions.
Different title in USA.
Greenfield, Robert
S T P : A Journey through America with the Rolling Stones (1974)
0841503230
Very famous book about the 1972 US Tour. Well written by an
'insider'. How did those boys survive!?
Herman, Gary
Rock'n'Roll Babylon (1982)
0859650413
Compulsive reading about the seamier side of the life (and death)
the Rock Greats.
Not surprisingly the Stones pop up regularly.
Hoffman, Dezo
The Rolling Stones (??)
009158311x
Dezo was a staff photographer with Record Mirror and his first
assignment to cover the Stones is re-printedhere - dated May 1963.
An excellent book of first class photos from 1963 to the early 70's.
Hoffman, Dieter
Rolling Stones - Das Weissbuch (1991)
3980248940
Totally amazing detailed catalogue of Stones (legal) releases. UK,
US, Germany, 7", LP, CD. You name it, it's there!Includes song
index. Expensive (99 DM) but well worth it for the serious
collectors. (See also Das Schwarzbuch by ther same author)
Hoffman, Dieter
Rolling Stones - Das Schwarzbuch (1987)
3926886005
The Black Book - bootleg discography with pictures, quality ratings
etc. About 600 are listed. Much, much better than Hot Wacks.
(Thanks to D. H.)
Hotchner, A E
Blown Away : The Rolling Stones and the Death of the Sixties (1990)
0671693166
Less than readable account that draws upon interviews with everyone
except the Stones. Interview extract pasted together out of context
results in a book with little value.
One nice photo.
Hughes, William
Performance (1970)
Book of the film. Almost.
Jasper, Tony
The Rolling Stones (1976)
0706405498
Cuttings job. Nicely printed selection of photo's.
Phillip Kamin & Peter Goddard
The Rolling Stones : The Last Tour (1982)
0825301181
Longish text for little reward. Often pretentious. Excellent
photo's, although the captions are sometimes incorrect.
James Karnbach & Philip Kamin
The Rolling Stones in Europe (1983)
082531052
Written by long time Stones authority James Karnbach, exciting
coverage of shows, many pages of photo's, and finally an interview
with Ronnie.
Plus a breakdown of the performance history of each song in the '82
set list.
The Kicker Twins
The Stones Bible (1992)
Privately published (photocopied) in Germany, this lists concerts by
city and compares bootleg LP/CD to tapes for completeness. Only 200
copies printed.
(Thanks to D. H.)
Kluge, Volker
The Rolling Stones - At the Rarest (1981)
Bootleg discography, mostly obsolete due to the passage of time, and
Das Schwarzbuch.
(Thanks to D. H.)
Knight, June
On the Scene : The Rolling Stones (1964)
Only 36 pages, but packed with good quality early photos.
Interestingly Brian follows Mick in the pecking order of of the
group. . . . .
Annie Leibovitz & Terry Southern
The Rolling Stones on Tour (1978)
0906196078
Beautifully produced and presented book of great photo's of the Tour
of The Americas '75.
A talented photographer with privileged access to the tour has
captured some great images. See page 68.
Luce, Philip
The Stones (??)
0093051905
1970? book, and an early attempt at a half-serious account of the
rise and rise of the Stones. A historic curio.
Wonderful cover shot of Charlie
Lyall, Sutherland
Rock Sets : The Astonishing Art of Rock Concert Design (1992)
0500276978
This book details the Stage Set designs of Fisher Park - the
architects who designed the 'Steel Wheels' and 'Urban Jungle stage
sets. Very high quality photo's and reproduction. Excellent.
MacPhail, Jessica
Yesterday's Papers : The Rolling Stones in Print 1963-84 (1986)
0876502095
No original text, but a book of lists of books, newspaper articles,
magazines, and file reviews. Ambitious but flawed by the fact that
the earliest reference is May 1963 - almost a year after the first
one. Dreadful typeface makes this book very hard to use.
An honorable attempt at an impossible task. A must for all
serious students.
Mankowitz, Gered
Satisfaction : The Rolling Stones photos of Gered Mankowitz (1984)
0283991178
First class book of photo's taken by one of the inner circle of
favoured photographers from the early years.
Marks, J
Mick Jagger : The Singer Not the Song (1973)
0349122881
A less than useful bio of Mick. Everone has a different perspective
on the Band, this is J Marks'.
Martin, Linda
The Rolling Stones in Concert (1982)
0617376954
Text tells you nothing new, but the photos are good - often with
stunning clarity.
Suffers, like many books, from badly captioned photos.
McCartney, Linda
Sixties:Portrait of an Era (1992)
1855100894
Linda got her Big Career Break by taking photo's of the Stones in
New York in 1966. Nice photo's, nicely printed and presented.
Overpriced book.
Mind you, it has some superb photo's, including The Best Photo Ever
of Jimi.
Miles
Rolling Stones : An Illustrated Discography (1980)
0860017621
An ESSENTIAL book for all Stones fans. An excellent listing of the
band's records up to 1980 (and thus in need of a new edition).
Few books on this list are mandatory, this is one!
Norman, Philip
The Life and Good Times of the Rolling Stones (1989)
0712630384
A large format photo book, short on text. Given that Norman has
written first class books about both the Stones and the Fabs, one
has to wonder what the point is.
Only buy if remaindered and very cheap.
Norman, Philip
The Stones (1984)
0552124877
Pete Townshend writes "It's a good thing that a writer of Philip
Norman's class has finally produced a book on The Stones".
Agreed. Even if this is flawed, and I don't know if it really is,
too many of the Stones books are very lightweight and it is a
pleasant change to have one that is actually serious and thorough.
Oldham, Andrew
The Rolling Stones : the Singles Collection (1989)
The re-issued boxed set of Singles (CD et. al. ) has an OK book of
notes. Useful notes, more useful for all of the words of the songs
and the notes about the singles.
Palmer, Robert
The Rolling Stones (1983)
0722166567
A well researched and presented book from the publishers of Rolling
Stone. Light on text, heavy on pictures.
ed Dr Andreas Papadakis
Architectural Design : New Architecture (1990)
1854900293
A special edition of Architectural Design concentrated on 'New
Architecuture' and included an article by Mark Fisher on his designs
for the 1989 Steel Wheels stage - plus some stunning colour photos.
Guy Peellaert, Nik Cohn
Rock Dreams : Under the Boardwalk (1974)
0330240080
A book of fantasy drawings of The Great Stars in likely and unlikely
situations. The Stones are (rather strangely) illustrated.
It is said that Jagger was so impressed that this was the reason why
Peellaert was commissioned to do the cover for It's Only
Rock'n'Roll.
Platt, John
London's Rock Routes (1985)
0947795707
Quite a nice round up of famous rock locations around the capital.
A good chapter on the Stones.
Quill, Greg
The Rolling Stones : 25th Anniversary Tour (1989)
0921458029
Some neat pictures, but full of factual errors.
Randolph, Mike
The Rolling Stones' Rock and Roll Circus (1991)
057116210X
A book of very good photo's from the Legendary show. Sadly and
avoidably flawed by presenting many of the photos as double page
spreads, and then needing to break the book to see them.
It would be nice to see the video/film!
The Rolling Stones
Concert Programmes
Any history of any group can only be helped by a study of their
Concert Programmes. As the years have passed these have progressed
from small quick throw-away jobs, to lavish well produced (and
expensive) souvenirs.
Yet another way for the bands to make money.
ed Brian Roylance (& Bill Wyman)
Blinds & Shutters : Michael Cooper (1990)
0904351378
A distressingly beautiful book, full of upsettingly unique photos at
a heart-stopping price.
Cooper was the 'court' photographer to the Beatles (he did the Sgt.
Pepper cover photo) and the Stones (Satanic Majesties) and others.
As such these photos are unique.
Wonderful.
Russell, Ethan
Dear Mr Fantasy (1985)
Many good photo's of the Stones and other bands, personalities, etc.
Especially good photo's from 1969 when he was the official tour
photographer.
(Thanks to D. H.)
Sanchez, Tony
Up and Down with the Rolling Stones : The Inside Story (1979)
0688085156
'Spanish' Tony's account of several years wheeling and dealing with
the Stones (mainly Keith). An interesting read because even if 99%
is grossly inflated it gives a flavour of what life was like with
the band during the late 60's to early 70's.
Spanish Tony is immortalised on the (censored) Beggars Banquet cover
(below Parachute Woman).
Scaduto, Anthony
Mick Jagger (1974)
Lengthy and detailed look at how Jagger was perceived in 1974.
Schofield, Carey
Jagger (1983)
0708826156
A disappointingly lightweight bio of Mick.
Stember, Wilfred
The Rolling Stones : Collectors File 2 (1984)
A stirling attempt by a German fan to list all shows, albums,
recordings etc.
Yet another book to compare with other similar and worry and wonder
about the differences.
Come on Bill, do the decent thing and publish YOUR database!
Tremlett, George
The Rolling Stones Story (1974)
0860071286
Tory Ex-GLC Councillor does a mean job with a cuttings file.
Andre Verdet and Bill Wyman
Chagall's World (1984)
0385193246
When a book of an interview with Chagall was to be published who
better than to do the photo's than (then) near neighbour Bill Wyman.
Nice book.
Sue Weiner & Lisa Howard
The Rolling Stones : A-Z (1983)
0711905495
Encyclopedia format of a paragraph about people, songs and the like
to do with the band. Helpful in settling disputes.
3000 entries ensures brevity of each entry.
Ron Wood (with Bill German)
The Works (1988)
0006373542
Ronnie's short autobiography. Also has a paragraph or two about his
influences.
Lightweight, but the sketches are nice.
Wyman, Bill
Stone Alone : The Story of a Rock'n'Roll Band (1990)
0670828947
Bill's own account of the band's story up to the 1969 Hyde Park
concert. A surprisingly absorbing read, despite the great detail.
Although Ray Coleman did edit the book, it was written by The Man
himself and was reportedly cut down from 300,000 words.
Essential. How long will we have to wait for Volume 2?
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Part Four
The Rolling Stones--The Lazy Man's Discography
Version 1.0
September 1993
This discography lists the Rolling Stones' long-play and EP releases issued
in the UK or United States, sorted by release date.
Those DECCA releases which were unique to the UK, in either title or
configuration, are underlined in Eastward-pointing arrows: ">>>>>>>>>>>>>>>"
Those London releases which were unique to the US, in either title or
configuration, use Westward-pointing arrows: "<<<<<<<<<<<<<"
>From "Their Satanic Majesties' Request" on, the British and American releases
of previously unreleased material on LPs were congruent, with the exception
of "Metamorphosis".
We have declined to catalogue out-of-print compilations that began appearing
in Europe in the seventies. While they filled important gaps in European
collections at the time they were released, the fact is that with only a few
exceptions, any track that was on those records is now available on Compact
Disc, small variations of an individual track notwithstanding.
(Exceptions: 5 rare tracks on "Rest of the Best", a 4 LP box set, and
several tracks from the original "Got LIVE if you want it!" EP,
are still not released on CD.)
We have also declined, at this point in time, to catalogue those small
variations on the same track between different LP releases. While some
variations are not so small, and some versions still have not appeared
on Compact Disc in any country, we feel the following document is still
a useful resource.
Finally, there is a brief listing of material that was officially sanctioned
and available at some point, but never made it to a compilation or LP of
any sort.
This discography/FAQ-section is maintained by Anthony J. Rzepela
(rzepela@cvi.hahnemann.edu).
Helps, hints, corrections and suggestions were graciously provided by:
Jens Backlund (jbacklund@finabo.abo.fi)
Stephen D. Carter (stevedc@central.sussex.ac.uk)
Mark C. Walters (mark@pluto.logica.co.uk)
Bibliography:
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Hoffman, Dieter "Das Weissbuch" ISBN: 3980248940
Wyman, Bill (w/ Ray Coleman) "Stone Alone" ISBN: 0670828947
============================================================================
The Rolling Stones (EP) (17-Jan-1964)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> PROD: Impact Sound
Bye Bye Johnny / Money (That's What I Want) // You Better Move On /
Poison Ivy
NB: rereleased 1983; Track 3 appears on "December's Children",German
compilations "20 Super Hits" & "Heartbreakers",UK compilation
"Slow Rollers"; other 3 tracks appear on "More Hot Rocks"; all
tracks are on German comps "Around and Around"/"Rolling Stones
Story"
The Rolling Stones (17-Apr-1964)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> PROD: Oldham/Eric Easton/Arr. Stones
Route 66 / I Just Wanna Make Love To You / Honest I Do / Mona (I Need
You Baby) / Now I've Got a Witness / Little By Little // I'm a King
Bee / Carol / Tell Me / Can I Get A Witness / You Can Make It If You
Try / Walking the Dog
NB: To duplicate this release, take US lp debut, remove "Not Fade
Away", add "Mona" (from "Now!")
England's Newest Hit Makers (01-May-1964)
<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< PROD: Oldham/Eric Easton/Arr. Stones
Not Fade Away / Route 66 / I Just Want to Make Love to You / Honest I
Do / Now I've Got a Witness / Little By Little // I'm a King Bee /
Carol / Tell Me / Can I get A Witness / You Can Make it if You Try /
Walking the Dog
NB: then-manager Eric Easton's co-producer credits removed from CD
reissue; to duplicate, take UK lp debut, add "Not Fade Away" (UK
"High Tide/Green Grass"), and remove "Mona"
Five by Five (EP) (14-Aug-1964)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> PROD: Oldham/Impact/Arr. Stones
If You Need Me / Empty Heart / 2120 South Michigan Avenue //
Confessin' the Blues / Around and Around
NB: rereleased 1983; all tracks can be found on American LP "12 X 5";
a longer version of "2120" appears nowhere except German
compilation "Around and Around", out of print, and contained in
"The Rolling Stones Story" box set, out of print.
12 x 5 (24-Oct-1964)
<<<<<< PROD: Andrew Loog Oldham/Arr. Stones
Around and Around / Confessin' the Blues / Empty Heart / Time Is on My
Side / Good Times Bad Times / It's All Over Now // 2120 South Michigan
Avenue / Under The Boardwalk / Congratulations / Grown Up Wrong / If
You Need Me / Susie Q
NB: includes all of "5 X 5" UK EP, four tracks from second UK LP
"No.2", and 3 single/compilation tracks "It's All Over Now",
"Good Times bad Times", and "Congratulations"
No. 2 (16-Jan-1965)
>>>>> PROD: Andrew Loog Oldham/Arr. Stones
Everybody Needs Somebody To Love / Down Home Girl / You Can't Catch Me
/ Time Is On My Side / What A Shame / Grown Up Wrong // Down The Road
Apiece / Under the Boardwalk / I Can't Be Satisfied / Pain In My Heart
/ Off The Hook / Suzie Q
NB: to duplicate, start with US LP "Now!", and add "Time Is On My
Side", "Susie Q", "Under the Boardwalk", "Grown Up Wrong" (all
from US LP "12x5"), and add "I Can't Be Satisfied" (More Hot
Rocks)
Now! (13-Feb-1965)
<<<< PROD: Andrew Loog Oldham/Arr. Stones
Everybody Needs Somebody To Love / Down Home Girl / You Can't Catch Me
/ Heart of Stone / What a Shame / Mona (I Need you Baby) // Down the
Road Apiece / Off the Hook / Pain in My Heart / Oh Baby (We Got a Good
Thing Goin') / Little Red Rooster / Surprise, Surprise
NB: to duplicate, take UK LP "No. 2", delete tracks 4,6,8,9,12, and
add "Mona" (first UK LP), "Heart of Stone", "Oh Baby" (UK version
of "Out of Our Heads"), "Little Red Rooster" (single, or UK "High
Tide and Green Grass"), and "Surprise, Surprise" (flipside)
Got LIVE if you want it! (EP) (11-Jun-1965)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> PROD: Oldham/Impact/Arr. Stones
We Want the Stones / Everybody Needs Somebody To Love / Pain in My
Heart / Route 66 // I'm Moving On / I'm Alright
NB: Rereleased 1983; contents are on "Rest of the Best" and
"Collectors Only" (German compilations, out of print); Tracks 4,5
on "December's Children"; track 6 on US "Out of Our Heads";
tracks 2,3,5,6 on German "Legends of Rock"
Out of Our Heads (30-Jul-1965)
<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< PROD: Andrew Loog Oldham/Arr. Stones
Mercy Mercy / Hitch Hike / The Last Time / That's How Strong My Love
Is / Good Times / I'm Alright // Satisfaction / Cry To Me / The Under
Assistant West Coast Promotion Man / Play With Fire / The Spider and
the Fly / One More Try
NB: features "I'm Alright" from "Got Live" EP; to duplicate, add UK
"Out of Our Heads"; singles "Satisfaction", "The Last Time",
"Play With Fire"; "One More Try" (compilation "Stone Age"); and
"Spider and the Fly" (flipside to the UK "Satisfaction" single)
Out of Our Heads (24-Sep-1965)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> PROD: Andrew Loog Oldham/Arr. Stones
She Said Yeah / Mercy Mercy / Hitch-Hike / That's How Strong My Love
Is / Good Times / Gotta Get Away // Talkin 'Bout You / Cry To Me / Oh
Baby (We Got a Good Thing Goin') / Heart of Stone / The Underassistant
West Coast Promotion Man / I'm Free
NB: To duplicate, Americans need "She Said Yeah", "Gotta Get Away",
"Talkin About You", "I'm Free" (all from "December's Children"),
"Heart of Stone" and "Oh Baby" (from "Now!"), and US "Out of Our
Heads"
December's Children (04-Dec-1965)
<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< PROD: Andrew Loog Oldham/Arr. Stones
She Said Yeah / Talkin' About You / You Better Move On / Look What
You've Done / The Singer not the Song / Route 66 // Get Off of My
Cloud / I'm Free / As Tears Go By / Gotta Get Away / Blue Turns To
Grey / I'm Moving On
NB: tracks 6,12 from UK "Got LIVE" EP; To duplicate, Britons can find
tracks 1,2,8, and 10 from the UK "Out of Our Heads".
Compilations/singles are only source for tracks 3,4,5,7,9,11
Big Hits (High Tide and Green Grass) (02-Apr-1966)
<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<PROD: Andrew Loog Oldham/Arr. Stones
Satisfaction / The Last Time / As Tears Go By / Time Is on My Side /
It's All Over Now / Tell Me // 19th Nervous Breakdown / Heart of Stone
/ Get Off of My Cloud / Not Fade Away / Good Times, Bad Times / Play
With Fire
NB: compilation
Aftermath (15-Apr-1966)
>>>>>>>>> PROD: Andrew Loog Oldham/Arr. Stones
Mother's Little Helper / Stupid Girl / Lady Jane / Under My Thumb /
Doncha Bother Me / Goin' Home // Flight 505 / High and Dry / Out of
Time / It's Not Easy / I Am Waiting / Take it or Leave It / Think /
What To Do
NB: to duplicate, Americans need "Mother's Little Helper","Take It or
Leave It", "Out of Time" ("Flowers"), and "What To Do" ("More Hot
Rocks"); but correct, long version of "Out of Time" (5:36) is not
a US release at all.
Aftermath (02-Jul-1966)
<<<<<<<<< PROD: Andrew Loog Oldham/Arr. Stones
Paint It, Black / Stupid Girl / Lady Jane / Under My Thumb / Doncha
Bother Me / Think // Flight 505 / High and Dry / It's Not Easy / I am
Waiting / Going Home
NB: "Paint It, Black" is the only track not on the European
configuration. US version of this is easily duplicated with just
that track.
Big Hits (High Tide and Green Grass) (04-Nov-1966)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>PROD: Andrew Loog Oldham/Arr. Stones
Have You Seen Your Mother, Baby, Standing in the Shadow? / Paint It,
Black / It's All Over Now / The Last Time / Heart of Stone / Not Fade
Away / Come On // Satisfaction / Get Off of My Cloud / As Tears Go By
/ 19th Nervous Breakdown / Time Is On My Side / Little Red Rooster
NB: several tracks new to UK LPs at this point; US LPs already
included "Little Red Rooster","The Last Time","Not Fade Away",
"Satisfaction", "It's All Over Now","Paint It, Black" & "Get Off
of my Cloud"
Got LIVE if you Want it! (10-Dec-1966)
<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< PROD: Andrew Loog Oldham
Under My Thumb / Get Off of My Cloud / Lady Jane / Not Fade Away /
I've Been Loving You Too Long / Fortune Teller // The Last Time / 19th
Nervous Breakdown / Time is On My Side / I'm Alright / Have You Seen
you Mother, Baby, Standing in the Shadow? / Satisfaction
NB: Poorly recorded; several tracks are just studio recordings with
canned audience on top. ABKCO "Digital Remaster" from mid-80s
uses a different version of "Under My Thumb"; UK customers got
tracks 1,3,5,6,9,12 in 1971, on the compilation "Gimme Shelter"
Between the Buttons (20-Jan-1967)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> PROD: Andrew Loog Oldham/Arr. Stones
Yesterday's Papers / My Obsession / Back Street Girl / Connection /
She Smiled Sweetly / Cool, Calm and Collected // All Sold Out / Please
Go Home / Who's Been Sleeping Here? / Complicated / Miss Amanda Jones
/ Something Happened to Me Yesterday
NB: Last new album produced by Oldham; US release can be duplicated
by adding singles "Let's Spend the Night Together" and "Ruby
Tuesday", and dropping tracks 8 and 3
Between the Buttons (11-Feb-1967)
<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< PROD: Andrew Loog Oldham/Arr. Stones
Let's Spend the Night Together / Yesterday's Papers / Ruby Tuesday /
Connection / She Smiled Sweetly / Cool, Calm, and Collected // All
Sold Out / My Obsession / Who's Been Sleeping Here? / Complicated /
Miss Amanda Jones / Something Happened to Me Yesterday
NB: last album produced by Oldham; to get UK release, drop tracks 1,
3, and add "Please Go Home" and "Back Street Girl" ("Flowers")
Flowers (15-Jul-1967)
<<<<<<< PROD: Andrew Loog Oldham/Arr. Stones
Ruby Tuesday / Have You Seen your Mother, Baby, Standing in the
Shadow? / Let's Spend the Night Together / Lady Jane / Out Of Time /
My Girl // Backstreet Girl / Please Go Home / Mother's Little Helper /
Take it Or Leave It / Ride On, Baby / Sittin' on a Fence
NB: collection: 4 single sides, 5 UK LP tracks (2 from "Between the
Buttons", and 3 from "Aftermath"); "My Girl" and "Ride On Baby"
remain unavailable elsewhere. "Sittin' on a Fence" is on the UK
version of "Through the Past Darkly", and "More Hot Rocks"
Their Satanic Majesties' Request (09-Dec-1967)
================================ PROD: Rolling Stones
Sing This All Together / Citadel / In Another Land / 2000 Man / Sing
This All Together (see what happens) // She's a Rainbow / The Lantern
/ Gomper / 2000 Light Years from Home / On With the Show
NB: First album not produced by Oldham; only album produced by 'The
Rolling Stones'; first album with identical track listings on
either side of the Atlantic Ocean
Beggar's Banquet (07-Dec-1968)
================ PROD: Jimmy Miller
Sympathy For the Devil / No Expectations / Dear Doctor / Parachute
Woman / Jig-Saw Puzzle // Street Fightin' Man / Prodigal Son / Factory
Girl / Salt of the Earth
NB: First album produced by Jimmy Miller. DECCA banned use of the
original "toilet & graffiti" cover, which was later used on the
ABKCO release in 1986 on lp and CD; initial copies of "Street" 7"
single an alternate mix
Through the Past, Darkly (Big Hits, Vol. (12-Sep-1969)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>PROD: Andrew Loog Oldham/Arr. Stones
Jumping Jack Flash / Mother's Little Helper / 2000 Light Years From
Home / Let's Spend the Night Together / You Better Move On / We Love
You // Street Fightin' Man / She's A Rainbow / Ruby Tuesday /
Dandelion / Sittin' On a Fence / Honky Tonk Women
NB: Compilation; dedicated to Brian Jones, dead two months earlier
Through the Past, Darkly (Big Hits, Vol. (13-Sep-1969)
<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<PROD: (various)
Paint It Black / Ruby Tuesday / She's a Rainbow / Jumpin' Jack Flash /
Mother's Little Helper / Let's Spend the Night Together // Honky Tonk
Women / Dandelion / 2000 Light Years from home / Have you Seen Your
Mother Baby, Standing in the Shadow? / Street Fighting Man
NB: Compilation; dedicated to Brian Jones, dead two months earlier
Let it Bleed (06-Dec-1969)
============ PROD: Jimmy Miller
Gimme Shelter / Love In Vain / Country Honk / Live With Me / Let It
Bleed // Midnight Rambler / You Got The Silver / Monkey man / You
Can't Always Get What You Want
NB: first LP to feature Mick Taylor, Brian Jones' replacement; last
ever Stones' record to be issued with a commercially available
alternate mono version; first ever album to NOT have an A-side
single issued
Get Yer Ya-Ya's Out! (01-Sep-1970)
==================== PROD: Stones/Glyn Johns
Jumpin' Jack Flash / Carol / Stray Cat Blues / Love in Vain / Midnight
Rambler // Sympathy for the Devil / Live with Me / Little Queenie /
Honky Tonk Women / Street Fighting Man
NB: live ; recorded on the 1969 tour in New York City; last
non-compilation issue for DECCA/London/ABKCO; subsequent releases
would be on Rolling Stones Records ("tongue" label)
Sticky Fingers (23-Apr-1971)
============== PROD: Jimmy Miller
Brown Sugar / Sway / Wild Horses / Can't You Hear Me Knockin' / You
Gotta Move // Bitch / I Got the Blues / Sister Morphine / Dead Flowers
/ Moonlight Mile
NB: Notorious 'zipper' cover, designed by Andy Warhol, was banned in
Spain, where a sick "severed finger" motif was used instead, as
was a substitution of "Let it Rock" for objectionable "Sister
Morphine". First LP release on the new "Rolling Stones Records"
label
Hot Rocks 1964 - 1971 (01-Jan-1972)
<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< PROD: (various)
Time is on My Side / Heart of Stone / Play With Fire / Satisfaction /
As Tears Go By / Get Off My Cloud // Mother's Little Helper / 19th
Nervous Breakdown / Paint It, Black / Under My Thumb / Ruby Tuesday /
Let's Spend the Night Together // Jumping Jack Flash / Street Fighting
Man / Sympathy for the Devil / Honky Tonk Women / Gimme Shelter //
Midnight Rambler (Live) / You Can't Always Get What You Want / Brown
Sugar / Wild Horses
NB: Compilation; issued in UK in 1990; American CDs use inferior
mixes. German CD uses superior Mobile Fidelity Sound Labs' 1984
remastering, including *true* stereo versions of several popular
favorites, like "Satisfaction" and "Paint it, Black"
Exile On Main St. (01-May-1972)
================= PROD: Jimmy Miller
Rocks Off / Rip This Joint / Hip Shake / Casino Boogie / Tumbling Dice
// Sweet Virginia / Torn & Frayed / Sweet Black Angel / Loving Cup //
Happy / Turd on the Run / Ventilator Blues / Just Wanna See His Face /
Let It Loose // All Down the Line / Stop Breaking Down / Shine a Light
/ Soul Survivor
NB: remains the only double-LP of new studio work by the group.
More Hot Rocks (01-Dec-1972)
<<<<<<<<<<<<<< PROD: (various)
Tell Me / Not Fade Away / The Last Time / It's All Over Now / Good
Times Bad Times / I'm Free // Out of Time / Lady Jane / Sittin' On a
Fence / Have You Seen You Mother, Baby, Standing in the Shadow /
Dandelion / We Love You // She's a Rainbow / 2000 Light Years From
Home / Child of the Moon / No Expectations / Let It Bleed // What To
Do / Money / Come On / Fortune Teller / Poison Ivy / Bye Bye Johnnie /
I Can't Be Satisfied / Long Long While
NB: compilation; not in UK until 1990; "side four" is a good source
of previously unavailable UK album tracks and flipsides; first
three sides are a rocking compilation of near-hits; versions
"Digitally Remastered" have different versions of several tracks
Goat's Head Soup (31-Aug-1973)
================ PROD: Jimmy Miller
Dancing With Mr. D / 100 Years Ago / Coming Down Again / Doo Doo Doo
Doo Doo (Heartbreaker) / Angie / Silver Train / Hide Your Love /
Winter / Can You Hear the Music / Star Star
NB: "censored" version of "Star Star" available only on initial US
vinyl pressings distributed by WEA
It's Only Rock 'n' Roll (01-Oct-1974)
======================= PROD: Glimmer Twins
If You Can't Rock Me / Ain't Too Proud to Beg / It's Only Rock and
Roll / Till the Next Goodbye / Time Waits for No One // Luxury / Dance
Little Sister / If You Really Want to Be My Friend / Short and Curlies
/ Fingerprint File
NB: First album produced by the 'Glimmer Twins'; between-track timing
on the CD noticeably "off" from the vinyl on "side one"; single
flipside ("Through the Lonely Nights") still "uncompiled"
Metamorphosis (01-Jun-1975)
<<<<<<<<<<<<< PROD: (various)
Out of Time / Don't Lie To Me / Each and Everyday of the Year / Heart
of Stone / I'd Much Rather be With the Boys / (Walkin' thru the)
Sleepy City / Try a Little Harder // I Don't Know Why / If you Let Me
/ Jiving Sister Fanny / Downtown Suzie / Family / Memo From Turner /
I'm Going Down
Metamorphosis (uk) (01-Jun-1975)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> PROD: (various)
Out of Time / Don't Lie To Me / Some Things Just Stick In Your Mind /
Each and Every Day of the Year / Heart of Stone / I'd Much Rather Be
with the Boys / (Walkin' through the) Sleepy City / We're Wastin' Time
/ Try A Little Harder // I Don't Know Why / If You Let Me / Jiving
Sister Fanny / Downtown Suzie / Family / Memo From Turner / I'm Going
Down
NB: poorly selected compilation of outtakes from the Klein years
(early sixties to 1970)
Made In the Shade (06-Jun-1975)
================= PROD: (various)
Brown Sugar / Tumbling Dice / Happy / Dance Little Sister / Wild
Horses // Angie / Bitch / It's Only Rock 'n Roll / Doo Doo Doo Doo Doo
(Heartbreaker) / Rip This Joint
NB: compilation
Black and Blue (01-Apr-1976)
============== PROD: Glimmer Twins
Hot Stuff / Hand Of Fate / Cherry Oh Baby / Memory Motel // Hey,
Negrita / Melody / Fool To Cry / Crazy Mama
NB: first new album released with Ron Wood as a member
Love You Live (23-Sep-1977)
============= PROD: Glimmer Twins
Intro/Honky Tonk Women / If You Can't Rock Me/Get Off My Cloud / Happy
/ Hot Stuff / Star Star // Tumbling Dice / Fingerprint File / You
Gotta Move / You Can't Always Get What You Want // Mannish Boy /
Crackin' Up / Little Red Rooster / Around and Around // It's Only Rock
and Roll / Brown Sugar / Jumping Jack Flash / Sympathy for the Devil
NB: live; recorded in Paris 1976, and Toronto 1977; another 'Warhol'
cover art; dedicated to Keith Harwood, recently deceased
Some Girls (09-Jun-1978)
========== PROD: Glimmer Twins
Miss You / When the Whip Comes Down / Just My Imagination / Some Girls
/ Lies // Far Away Eyes / Respectable / Before They Make Me Run /
Beast of Burden / Shattered
NB: Cover reworked due to objections of pictured celebrities, incl.
Lucille Ball. 1 flipside ("Everything's Turning to Gold") and 1
remix ("Miss You") were later "compiled". "promo mix" of "Before
they Make Me" is still uncompiled. 1st lp preceded by a 2-year
gap.
Emotional Rescue (23-Jun-1980)
================ PROD: Glimmer Twins/Kimsey (assoc.)
Dance (Pt. I) / Summer Romance / Send it To Me / Let Me Go / Indian
Girl // Where the Boys Go / Down in the Hole / Emotional Rescue /
She's So Cold / All About You
NB: Early copies had a very large, color 'thermo' poster. "promo"
mixes of "Emotional Rescue" and "She's So Cold" (latter has no
line saying "God Damn Cold") are still "uncompiled"
Sucking in the Seventies (12-Mar-1981)
======================== PROD: Glimmer Twins
Shattered / Everything Is Turning to Gold / Hot Stuff (version) / Time
Waits For No One (version) / Fool To Cry (version) // Mannish Boy
(version) / When the Whip Comes Down (live) / If I was a Dancer (Dance
Pt. 2) / Crazy Mama (version) / Beast of Burden (version)
NB: Compilation: six single edits, a B-side, and 2 new goodies;
"promo" mix (instrumental) of "If I was a Dancer" appeared as a
flipside on a separate 12" single still "uncompiled". Only
"Shattered" was taken as issued on its original LP incarnation.
Tattoo You (27-Aug-1981)
========== PROD: Glimmer Twins
Start Me Up / Hang Fire / Slave / Little T & A / Black Limousine /
Neighbours // Worried About You / Tops / Heaven / No Use in Crying /
Waiting On a Friend
NB: featured songs in the can from as far back as 1973. Last Stones'
studio LP to be preceded by less than a two-year gap.
Still Life (American Concert 1981) (01-Jun-1982)
================================== PROD: Glimmer Twins
Intro (Take the A-Train) / Under My Thumb / Let's Spend the Night
Together / Shattered / Twenty Flight Rock / Going to a Go-Go // Let Me
Go / Time Is On My Side / Just My Imagination / Start Me Up /
Satisfaction (outro: "Star Spangled Banner")
NB: live; first American CD ever (mistake) issued in 1984. "Beast of
Burden (live)" flipside later appeared on "Collectibles" CD
Undercover (01-Nov-1983)
========== PROD: Glimmer Twins/Chris Kimsey
Undercover of the Night / She Was Hot / Tie You Up (The Pain of Love)
/ Wanna Hold You / Feel On Baby // Too Much Blood / Pretty Beat Up /
Too Tough / All the Way Down / It Must Be Hell
NB: "short" version of "Wanna Hold You" available only on initial US
vinyl pressings distributed by WEA; first ever Stones CD -
appeared in Europe 1983; flipside "Think I'm Going Mad" still
"uncompiled"
Rewind (lp) (01-Jun-1984)
>>>>>>>>>>> PROD: (various)
Brown Sugar / Undercover of the Night / Start Me Up / Tumbling Dice /
It's Only Rock 'n' Roll / She's So Cold // Miss You / Beast of Burden
/ Fool To Cry / Waiting on A Friend / Angie / Respectable
NB: compilation - missing "Hang Fire" from American counterpart, but
includes "Respectable" and "She's So Cold"
Rewind (lp) (01-Jul-1984)
<<<<<<<<<<< PROD: (various)
Miss You / Brown Sugar / Undercover of the Night / Start Me Up /
Tumbling Dice / Hang Fire // Emotional Rescue / Beast of Burden / Fool
To Cry / Waiting on a Friend / Angie
NB: compilation (note different track listing from CD, and the
European version of the lp, which had "She's So Cold" and
"Respectable", but left out "Hang Fire")
Dirty Work (21-Mar-1986)
========== PROD: Steve Lillywhite/Glimmer Twins
One Hit (to the Body) / Fight / Harlem Shuffle / Hold Back / Too Rude
// Winning Ugly / Back To Zero / Dirty Work / Had It With You / Sleep
Tonight
NB: Dedicated to recently deceased Ian Stewart; check out "fadeout"
at end of album.
Rewind (CD) (01-Dec-1986)
=========== PROD: (various)
Miss You / Brown Sugar / Undercover of the Night / Start Me Up /
Tumbling Dice / Hang Fire / It's Only Rock'n'Roll / Emotional Rescue /
Beast of Burden / Fool To Cry / Waiting on a Friend / Angie / Doo Doo
Doo Doo Doo (Heartbreaker)
NB: compilation ("Heartbreaker" and "Only Rock and Roll" added to
American LP configuration)
The London Years (Disc 1) (01-Aug-1989)
<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< PROD: (various)
Come On/ I Want To Be Loved/ I Wanna Be Your Man/ Stoned/ Not Fade
Away/ Little By Little/ It's All Over Now/ Good Times, Bad Times/ Tell
Me/ I Just Want To Make Love To You/ Time Is On My Side/
Congratulations/ Little Red Rooster/ Off The Hook/ Heart Of Stone/
What A Shame/ The Last Time/ Play With Fire/ Satisfaction/ The Under
Assistant West Coast Promotion Man/ The Spider and the Fly/ Get Off Of
My Cloud/ I'm Free/ The Singer Not the Song/ As Tears Go By
(Disc 2)
Gotta Get Away / 19th Nervous Breakdown / Sad Day / Paint It, Black /
Stupid Girl / Long Long While / Mother's Little Helper / Lady Jane /
Have You Seen You Mother, Baby, Standing in the Shadow? / Who's
Driving Your Plane / Let's Spend the Night Together / Ruby Tuesday /
We Love You / Dandelion / She's A Rainbow / 2000 Light Years From Home
/ In Another Land / The Lantern
(Disc 3)
Street Fighting Man / No Expectations / Surprise Surprise / Honky Tonk
Women / You Can't Always Get What You Want / Memo From Turner / Brown
Sugar / Wild Horses / I Don't Know Why / Try A Little Harder / Out Of
Time / Jiving Sister Fanny / Sympathy For the Devil
NB: Compilation; "All" singles & flipsides; Heavy overlap with other
US compilations; note: four "Metamorphosis" tracks,"I Wanna Be
Your Man","I Want to Be Loved", and "Stoned" finally appear on
CD; includes "Memo from Turner", previously not a US 'stones'
track.
Steel Wheels (28-Aug-1989)
============ PROD: Chris Kimsey / Glimmer Twins
Sad Sad Sad / Mixed Emotions / Terrifying / Hold on to Your Hat /
Hearts For Sale / Blinded By Love // Rock and a Hard Place / Can't Be
Seen / Almost Hear You Sigh / Continental Drift / Break the Spell /
Slipping Away
NB: three flipsides from this album: seek out "Cook Cook Blues"
("Rock and a Hard Place"), "Fancyman Blues" ("Mixed Emotions"),
and "Wish I'd Never Met You" ("Terrifying"), or get all three on
CD compilation "Collectibles". First LP to be preceded by a
3-year gap.
Collector's Edition/Collectibles (01-Jun-1990)
================================ PROD: (various)
Rock and a Hard Place (version) / Miss You (12" single) / Cook Cook
Blues / Everything Is Turning to Gold / Winning Ugly (remix) / Beast
of Burden (live) / Fancyman Blues / Harlem Shuffle (London Mix) / Wish
I'd Never Met You / Mixed Emotions (remix)
NB: included with either the "Collection 1971-1990" box set, or the
"Flashpoint" special edition issued in the States (where it uses
the name "Collectibles"
Flashpoint (CD) (02-Apr-1991)
================ PROD: Chris Kimsey / Glimmer Twins
Continental Drift / Start Me Up / Sad Sad Sad / Miss You / Rock and a
Hard Place / Ruby Tuesday / You Can't Always Get What You Want /
Factory Girl / Can't Be Seen / Little Red Rooster / Paint it Black /
Sympathy For the Devil / Brown Sugar / Jumpin' Jack Flash /
Satisfaction / Highwire / Sex Drive
Flashpoint (lp) (02-Apr-1991)
================ PROD: Chris Kimsey / Glimmer Twins
Continental Drift / Start Me Up / Sad Sad Sad / Miss You / Ruby Tueday
/ You Can't Always Get What You Want / Factory Girl / Little Red
Rooster // Paint It Black / Sympathy For the Devil / Brown Sugar /
Jumpin' Jack Flash / Satisfaction / Highwire / Sex Drive
NB: 14 (12 on vinyl) live + 2 new studio tracks; first time a
simultaneous release had different tracks on different media;
seven live songs were released as flipsides to singles from this
album. (see list at bottom).
========================Flipsides and oddities=========================
The following selections appeared on the 1984 4 LP German boxed set
"The Rest of the Best", but nowhere on the albums listed above for
the USA or UK. Since the deletion of this box set, these tracks
remain unavailable officially.
"Tell Me Baby, How Many Times" recorded Chicago, June 1964
"I've Been Loving You Too Long" recorded LA, May 1965
"Da Doo Ron Ron" Andrew Loog Oldham Orchestra, 1964
"Memphis Tennessee" "" ""
"Cocksucker Blues" Olympic Studios, 1970
The following selections have been officially released by the
Rolling Stones for public consumption, but have yet to appear on any
UK/USA album or compilation.
1971 "Let It Rock" - third track on UK "Brown Sugar" single
- Spanish version of "Sticky Fingers" LP
1972 "Exile on Main Street Blues"
promotional flexi - included w/ UK magazine purchase
1974 "Through the Lonely Nights"
flipside to "It's Only Rock'n'Roll" 45
1984 "Think I'm Going Mad"
flipside to "She Was Hot" 45
1990 The "Flashpoint" sides. A number of live performances
recorded on the 1989-1990 tours were used as flipsides
to singles pulled off "Flashpoint". These include:
"2000 Light Years from Home" (Highwire 7")
"Undercover of the Night" (Sexdrive 7")
"Play With Fire" (Ruby Tuesday 7")
"I Just Wanna Make Love To You" (Highwire 12")
"Tumbling Dice" (Jumpin' JF 7")
"Street Fightin' Man" (Belgian EP)
"Harlem Shuffle" (Ruby Tuesday CD)
This list does not pretend to exhaust your methods of getting
the tracks, it just offers suggestions for finding them.
1993 "Gimme Shelter (live)" - (cassette only, UK only) -
issued as part of a benefit project for the homeless in
1993, in which various artists cover the song, the Stones'
contribution was a live, "Urban Wheels" version.
1980-1990 The "remixes". While the Collectibles CD includes
one remix each of several popular songs, some persist that
have never been released on any collection:
"Undercover (Extended)" (Undercover 12")
"Feel On Baby (Instrumental)" ("" " ")
"Too Much Blood" (several exist) (Too Much Blood 12")
"Harlem Shuffle (New York mix)" (Harlem Shuffle 12")
"One Hit (London Mix)" (One Hit 12")
"Terrifying (remix)" (Terrifying 12")
1971-1990 The "promos". Released to radio stations and DJ pools,
promotional singles will often include a version of a record that
is more amenable to commercial airplay or dance club use, by virtue
of cleaned-up language, a different running time, or a hotter mix
more friendly to the intended arena (radio play or dance clubs).
Many promos exist for the Rolling Stones where one side is "Mono"
and the other is "Stereo", but here we catalogue records that
were more substantially altered:
"Wild Horses" (shorter version) (Promo 7")
"It's Only Rock 'n' Roll" (shorter) (Promo 7")
"Before They make Me Run" (Promo 7")
"Shattered" (clocks in under 3 minutes!!) (Promo 7")
"Emotional Rescue" (Promo 7")
"She's So Cold" ('clean') (Promo 7")
"If I was a Dancer (Instrumental)" (Promo 12")
"Waiting On a Friend" (more than a minute off) (Promo 7")
"Undercover" (Promo 7")
"Sexdrive" (Sexdrive PROMO 12")
(Club version, and edited Club version)
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Today's Topics:
Trying it again...
latin lyrics
Speculate on Stones Remake
CS blues lyrics
"Sympathy" lyric change?
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From: stevep@snowhite.cis.uoguelph.ca (The Happy listadmin)
Organization: Max-Planck-Institut fuer Informatik D-66123 Saarbruecken, Germany
Date: Tue, 5 Oct 93 12:42:54 +0100
Subject: Trying it again...
Bear with me if you have to see this...
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From: ziegler@mpi-sb.mpg.de (Joachim Ziegler)
Organization: Max-Planck-Institut fuer Informatik D-66123 Saarbruecken, Germany
Date: Tue, 5 Oct 93 12:42:54 +0100
Subject: latin lyrics
Hello Undercover Digest! It was me who once translated the lyrics of
Satisfaction and Sympathy in order to send them to the Pope (to give him a
slight idea of men's thoughts today). Here they are, enjoy them. BTW, I also
have the latin lyrics of "Let's spend..." (to give the Pope his first erection)
Satisfactionem (Obtinere Nequeo) (I Can't Get No) Satisfaction
Satisfactionem obtinere nequeo I can't get no satisfaction
Satisfactionem obtinere nequeo I can't get no satisfaction
Quia tempto et tempto et tempto Cause I try and I try and I try
Et tempto And I try
Obtinere nequeo I can't get no
Cum vehor in curru meo When I'm drivin' in my car
Et iste homo venit in arca radiatili And that man comes on the radio
Mihi narrat magis et magis He's tellin' me more and more
informationes innecessarias about some useless information
Destinatas ad meam imaginationem Supposed to fire my imagination
calefaciendum
Obtinere nequeo I can't get no
O non, non, non Oh no, no, no
Heu, heu, heu Hey, hey, hey
Id est quod dico That's what I say
Satisfactionem obtinere nequeo I can't get no satisfaction
Satisfactionem obtinere nequeo I can't get no satisfaction
Quia tempto et tempto et tempto Cause I try and I try and I try
Et tempto And I try
Obtinere nequeo I can't get no
Cum specto televisionem meam When I'm watchin' my T.V.
Et iste homo venit et mihi narrat And that man comes on and tells me
quam albae esse possint tunicae meae How white my shirts can be
Bene, nequit esse homo Well, he can't be a man
Quia non fumat Cause he doesn't smoke
easdem papyros fumiferas quas fumo the same cigarettes as me
Obtinere nequeo I can't get no
O non, non, non Oh no, no, no
Heu, heu, heu Hey, hey, hey
Id est quod dico That's what I say
Satisfactionem obtinere nequeo I can't get no satisfaction
Puellam in actione obtinere nequeo I can't get no girl in action
Quia tempto et tempto et tempto Cause I try and I try and I try
Et tempto And I try
Obtinere nequeo I can't get no
Cum percurro orbem terrarum When I'm ridin' 'round the world
Et ago haec et subscribo illa And I'm doin' this and I'm signin'
that
Et tempto facere aliquam puellam And I'm tryin' to make some girl
Quae mihi narrat, deliciae meae, Who tells me, baby, better come back
potius reveni posterius post septem dies later next week
Nonne videre potes Can't you see
me esse in statu perdendi I'm on a losing streak
Obtinere nequeo I can't get no
O non, non, non Oh no, no, no
Heu, heu, heu Hey, hey, hey
Id est quod dico That's what I say
Obtinere nequeo I can't get no
Obtinere nequeo I can't get no
Obtinere nequeo I can't get no
Satisfactionem No satisfaction
Satisfactionem No satisfaction
Satisfactionem No satisfaction
Consensus Cum Diabolo Sympathy For The Devil
Quaeso mihi permittite Please allow me
me ipsum introducere to introduce myself
Sum homo divitiarum et gustus I'm a man of wealth and taste
Vagabar longos, longos annos I've been around for long, long years
Privatus sum multos homines Stolen many a men's
anima et fide soul and faith
Aderam cum Jesus Christus habuit I was around when Jesus Christ had
suum momentum dubitationis his moment of doubt
et fidei and faith
Certum feci Pilatum manus suas Made damn sure that Pilate washed
lavare et suo fato fungi his hands and sealed his fate
Iuvat me vos convenire Pleased to meet you
Spero ut coniciatis meum nomen Hope you guess my name
Sed quod vos turbat But what's puzzling you
Est natura mei ludi Is the nature of my game
Vagabar in urbe St. Petersburg I stuck around St. Petersburg
Cum vidi esse tempus commutationis When I saw it was the time
for a change
Cecidi Caesarem et ministros eius I killed the Tzar and his ministers
Anastasia vane clamavit Anastasia screamed in vain
Vehebam currum ferreum I rode a tank
habebam locum imperatoris held a general's rank
Cum bellum fulmineum saeviebat When the blitzkrieg raged
et cadavera male olebant and the bodies stank
(Versus intercalaris) (Refrain)
Spectator delectavi I watched with glee while
cum vestri reges reginaeque your kings and queens
centum annos pro deis ab ipsis fought for ten decades for the gods
creatis pugnabant they made
Exclamavi: "Quis necavit eos nomine I shouted out:
Kennedy ?" "Who killed the Kennedys ?"
Nimirum id fecimus vos et ego When after all it was you and me
Quaeso mihi permittite Please allow me
me ipsum introducere to introduce myself
Sum homo divitiarum et gustus I'm a man of wealth and taste
Et facio insidias amorem canentibus And I lay traps for troubadours
Qui necantur antequam urbem Who get killed before they reach
Bombay attingunt Bombay
(Versus intercalaris) (Refrain)
Sicut omnis custos publicus est Just as every cop is a criminal
homo scelestus
Sicut omnes peccantes sancti And all the sinners saints
Sicut caput cauda Ad heads is tails
Me appellate Luciferum Just call me Lucifer
Quia mihi paulum temperationis opus est Cause I'm in need of some restraint
Cum ergo me convenitis habete paulum So if you meet me, have some
urbanitatis courtesy
Habete paulum consensus et paulum gustus Have some sympathy and some taste
Utimini omni vestra humanitate Use all your well-learned politesse
bene percepta
Aut animam vestram delebo Or I'll lay your soul to waste
(Versus intercalaris) (Refrain)
Carmen et musica: M. Jagger / K. Richards
Adaptio: J. Ziegler
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Date: Tue, 05 Oct 1993 10:27:15 -0600 (CST)
From: TODD FURESZ <FURESZ@kids.wustl.edu>
Subject: Speculate on Stones Remake
Just thought I'd toss this out for discussion. Does anybody
care to venture on any remakes the Stones might be working
on as they record and write in Ireland. My bet is that since
they are taking the Steel Wheels approach they will probably
stick with material by Jagger-Richards but there is always
a chance they may redo some old R&B and or soul classic. Do
you think they might be doing anything like Harelm Shuffle,
Imagination, Ain't Too Proud To Beg or some Chuck tune like
they have in the past. Any specualtions? Is there a particular
old song you have always wanted the Stones to record? Toss
your 2 cents in.
Funny aside, when Still Life came out a friend of mine commmented
on the first single "Going to A Go Go." He said he liked it
but thought Mick had done a better job in the past with lyrics.
I respeonded with "well that is actually a tune written by Smokey
Robinson." We got a good chuckle out of that.
Todd
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From: Jim Henning <ujhennin@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu>
Subject: CS blues lyrics
Date: Tue, 5 Oct 93 10:27:55 CDT
With all the posts about `CS Blues' that have been around in semi-recent times
I thought you'd all be interested to know that the lyrics are archived at
cs.uwp.edu. A simple ftp can satisfy your curiosity. Boy those Stones can
be prolific sometimes. ;)
-Jim
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***************** ujhennin@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu (Jim Henning) **********************
"I find it extraordinary, Mr. Richards, that a man of your stature only
has one pair of pants." - Judge speaking to Keith Richards in 1977
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Date: Tue, 05 Oct 1993 11:53:57 EDT
From: "Anthony J. Rzepela" <rzepela@cvi.hahnemann.edu>
Subject: Re: Speculate on Stones Remake
> Funny aside, when Still Life came out a friend of mine commmented
> on the first single "Going to A Go Go." He said he liked it
> but thought Mick had done a better job in the past with lyrics.
> I respeonded with "well that is actually a tune written by Smokey
> Robinson." We got a good chuckle out of that.
Funny - I don't remember Smokey singing any line saying
"Back to New York, and to all the fags.", but then, whaddaya know.
8-)
On my own aside, I have had email correspondence with several
people where we theorized (well, *I* theorized) that another Stones
tour in '94 could be a financial bust, but if you follow B.O. at all
(ah, box office, that is), you may note that the Seventies are GO!
right now.
Billy Joel, Rod Stewart, Steely Dan, Aerosmith - these tickets
just can't be printed fast enough, it seems. Although it seems
impossible, I am now somewhat of the mind that as much money as
the "Steel Wheels" tour made, it is going to be topped.
Unfortunately, I don't realistically see a set list much more
imaginative than 1989, but hopefully, I'll be proved wrong.
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Tony Rzepela |<rzepela@cvi.hahnemann.edu>
"More mature. More rocking. More Steel Wheels." -- Mick Jagger
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From: Jim Henning <ujhennin@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu>
Subject: Re: Speculate on Stones Remake
Date: Tue, 5 Oct 93 11:15:47 CDT
Todd wrote:
> Is there a particular
> old song you have always wanted the Stones to record? Toss
> your 2 cents in.
>
I've always wanted to hear Keith and Ronnie sing `One Of Us Must Know'
by Bob Dylan from `Blonde On Blonde'. I'm sure Keith is familiar with
the album. It was playing when the infamous Redlands bust occured.
-Jim
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***************** ujhennin@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu (Jim Henning) **********************
"I find it extraordinary, Mr. Richards, that a man of your stature only
has one pair of pants." - Judge speaking to Keith Richards in 1977
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From: Harold_Colson@UCSDLIBRARY.UCSD.EDU
Date: 05 Oct 93 09:44:00 -0800
Subject: re: "Sympathy" lyric change?
I haven't seen a response to this on the Digest yet. Apologies
for duplication if it's a repeat. hc
>Date: 23 Sep 93 13:26 EDT
>From: dheller@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Dave Heller)
>Subject: "Sympathy" lyric change?
>A very long time ago I heard that the lyrics for Sympathy for the
>Devil had to be changed from "...who killed Kennedy" to "who killed
>the Kennedys" because Robert Kennedy was assassinated during the
>recording sessions. Jagger does sing "Kennedy" in the One +
>One film and both events happened around the same time; can
>anyone confirm if this story is true?
This story is "confirmed" in the "Sympathy" track note at the
end of the book that accompanies the London singles
collection boxed set.
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